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jsutme 08-26-2002 02:27 AM

After doing some background checks and personal experimenting... I found that iBF is not all that it is bragged up to be.

This is in no way putting them down.

There present team created ikonboard and created the version 3.0 of that series and called it ikongold. It was indeed a let down and very buggy. They left that platform behind to go to new ventures (iBF) Problem is iBF being php was coded resembling there former ikonboard product. They made the same mistakes that they made before. It is ineficient for most people to modify and do what they want with it.

Now along comes a new team of 4 people at ikonboard, and they release 3.1.1 They cleaned up the bugs that the iBF team could not get rid of. Even a simple quote bug baffled the current iBF team, they could not get rid of it before they moved on. The current team took off the severe server load problems that the present iBf's team had coded. Cleaned up the code and released a vastly improved product.

Playing with the two boards ikonboard 3.1.1 and iBF's current release, on a few friends sites... iBF leaves a lot to be desired when a perl board can match a PHP board in speed and performance.

So I again went digging for facts. I came up with this solution:
Do you want a free board that is coded well? Follow the present team that just walked out on ikonboard. They are the ones that took what iBF's people attempted to do, and improved it vastly. They made a board that is bloated with more features than most, yet still can hold its own with the less featured iBF in speed and querry count.

Running the memberlist at ikonboard shows that it lost its dev members that created 3.1.1, and also a very lot of high people in the last week, with more to follow from a inside source I was talking to last night. That dev team is the one to follow for a free board.

As for paid boards and full support? There is no choice at all. It is right here. It is as simple as that.

Erwin 08-26-2002 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nuno
hehe.... that's why :p
That's a shocker... :eek:

supersimon 08-26-2002 03:55 AM

ok iam own one board and i have to say vbuletin tah best out ther and ive tried thema ll teh reason i did is cause i never wnated to buy vb but i conivinced i shuld and now iam here and i have to say teh hacks are amazing but teh support is another
prolly teh worst support ive ever seen in my life
i posted a few probelmos about 4 times and iam still waiting for answears ???? well though u can go to anay computer talk website that has alot of php codinh help yaxay.com or even some of tha smaller ones techiestalk.com and get amazing help. so i use a few websites to get what i want but the way i think about it is custom satisfaction ! hehehehe

g-force2k2 08-26-2002 04:27 AM

supersimon if you're looking for immediate help best to go to the support forum... other then that really the hack maker has to help you with support for his/her hacks... i certainly don't think that vb.org support is bad... just right now ppl are busy... and aren't on as much... i offer some support to members but i can only answer so much :p

regards

g-force2k2

dxb 08-26-2002 03:18 PM

I have few questions

what if IBF started charging money for example 30 $ how many ppl will go for it ???? and how many sites are going to go for vb3 :)


from my side I will be still going for vb for many reason and the main ones are the support,hacks and VB3 :)

best of luck for IB guys I'm sure they will need it :)

g-force2k2 08-26-2002 03:20 PM

i wouldn't pay $30 for ib... i wouldn't even pay the high dollars for ubb... imo vb is a great price... i like it and when the time comes i will renew my license for sure :) ib doesn't even begin to compare to vb... not to mention... i really love vb template system ;) there is no match ;)

g-force2k2

dxb 08-26-2002 03:25 PM

totally agree

mIRCnet 08-26-2002 04:00 PM

From my side I like VB more than invision thogh my friend is an IB hacker but I dont likt it,
I tested it once and when I looked to the templates there is so many templates and its complecated :(

I like vB for so many resons , the most thing that its simple and the guys here made it more simple
1.Thanks to FireFly for all tha hacks he made that changed the vB funcetunality
2. Thanks to c-prompt and SaintDog for teaching us how to change the look of the vB
more thanks to all the moderators and hackers in the vb.com and vb.org sites.

In the other hand, why dont you read my thread " Did you know ? I think you didnt yet " and tell my if you can do the same with IB ... I am sure that you will never be able to do it.

jsutme 08-26-2002 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dxb
I have few questions

what if IBF started charging money for example 30 $ how many ppl will go for it ????


Your joking right?

iBF charging for that product?

The user base that they have are children. All they do is go to other boards and spam. There way of advertising there board is so inmature and disgusting. If the members went from here to iBF and even mentioned VBB, the topic would be deleted. There inmature way of advertising is pure spam and flames. No serious potential users would use there product after seeing how there children promote that product. If your a business you will end up with there children on your forum in front of your custumers, and userbase, telling you that you have to use there product. I have seen other forums where this has happened.

If your going to pay for something. Then you pay for what will benefit you. I see no benefits what so ever from iBF, for them to even be able to charge $1.00 There product is not worth it. There coders are just rippers/hackers. Where is there originality?

TECK 08-29-2002 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by g-force2k2
i wouldn't pay $30 for ib... i wouldn't even pay the high dollars for ubb... imo vb is a great price... i like it and when the time comes i will renew my license for sure :) ib doesn't even begin to compare to vb... not to mention... i really love vb template system ;) there is no match ;)

g-force2k2

hmm the board is free and still dont want it, imagine if i have to pay.. heh. no wayyy!!

DrkFusion 08-29-2002 02:36 AM

Ive tried it ;) Still on my server....damn lock file pisses me off.

Anyway, I don't like it, I used phpbb before vb, and I have to say phpbb is 10x better then any other free board mainly because to an extent they have decent people there, OpenBB is just total crap, it may look all beautiful and dandy, but trust me you don't want to be stuck with a board with so many errors.

Also IbF hacks, get ideas from vb and ubb, so I don't know how a user at IbF can say, "Looky here, I thought this up, coded it from scratch, and it works so cool"

All I can say is hush children! hehe j/k
I have to say this Doofey character is the most decent user from IbF I have ever seen.

msimplay 08-29-2002 01:50 PM

Dunno what u lot are talkin about
to be honest with ya
cuz i tried em all
on standard features mode
hmm
Vbulletin
whats so good about it anyway
all i seen is money being payed
Phpbb is good
and so is ikonboard
But i think invision board is tops
for quality
altho it has little customer support at the moment
things that are hacks on other boards are built in as standard on that board
i would know
cuz i been through the admin control panels of each of them
I myself have used Yabb
the user community for is much better than all the boards i have seen
i do not know why it isn;t even getting a mention
the hacks are fanastic
the support is prompt what more do u want
its not good to knock off other peoples work
cuz i have seen the features that each board has
i'll be honest with ya each one has its merits but v bulletin seems to fall short cuz its not free
and nuthing to bring above what the other boards offer

Guichi 08-29-2002 06:16 PM

case in point, any free board is better than paying near 100 dollars for this. There are tons of free boards that can put out the performance that vbb can do and you dont have to update it every month or so because of spelling errors LOL!

i just cant wait for next week when i have to update to 2.28. :tired: or wait for the latest bug that "friendly" hackers find. About the customer support...there is no customer support. Forum members help eachother out here just as much as anywhere else. The ones who should really be giving support are out having a drink or busy counting how much money they have made. The vbulletin members area is just a glorified place to put in a long password. :p

Guys take it from someone who has made that purchase/mistake. Go get yourself a free board!

msimplay 08-29-2002 06:51 PM

i joined the forum just to see what all the commotion was about
i thort maybe 50 60 pounds for a licence
but man they take the mick
u ave to pay for licence
and then on top their members area renewels
They are comparing themselves to webboard dunno how old the post is
but has anyone really took the time to take a look at invision the latest or latest ikon board or phpbb
LOl i dunno why people even look at web board any of the free board including v bulletin beat the hell of web board it sooooo outdated :p

Goldknight 08-29-2002 07:31 PM

Guichi and others..

Hmm.. how interesting.. lately phpBB and IBF users come here and spam at our board or whine at us about "Free vs VB" I notice one thing about us VB members, we lately didnt bother, spam, whines, and insult others AT IBF and phpBB forums..

Now who are really mature and immature? Think it over cafefully...

As for "Free vs VB" Basically we dont care if you decide to choice free board such phpbb, ibf or even ezboard over VB and if you re happy with them then fine with us. We made our own choices and we re happy with it (even though we never regret our own decision.) VB give me many things that I want or need that which "Free" boards couldnt fill it up no matter how many verison they have to improve on.

Now go away and spam at somewhere else instead of here, we dont need that. We respect you guys by not spam, whines, bother, or to/at you guys at "Free" boards. So grow up... As Nakkid stated, I m aware of free boards but I dont want to use it, why should I? I was IBF/phpBB user before and honest with you, it is joke to have these on my site. Even if I cannot afford VB myself, I ll wait and save some $$ until I buy VB cuz it has stuffs that which fill up my needs.

Have a nice day :)

msimplay 08-29-2002 07:56 PM

Dont call me a spammer
just cuz u wasted ur money ;)
anyway didn;t i say its not good to knock off peoples work
did u even read what i sed
look whose talkin grow up ur too arrogant just cuz u paid some money, as for spam u dont know the meaning of spam am simply contributing to the arhuement cuz ur meant to persuade me to buy not the other way round
and users of this board are all like u then i don't wanna become part of this community the cheek of u @ Goldknight
i mean at the end of the day am parting with hard earning cash
u tell me what makes this forum worth buying
cuz at the end of the day if yur reply isn;t constructive why should i invest ?

Steve Machol 08-29-2002 07:57 PM

I think this thread has outlived it's usefulness (if it ever had one.) People who want 'free' have other options and they are welcome to them. This board is for hacks and the support of hacks for vB. Please feel free to continue your diatribes at the forums of your respective BB systems. :)


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