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kippesp 04-23-2002 04:10 AM

Didn't vote.

I think it is a great tool for documentation. It would be an improvement if all hacks were documented like the output of vbHacker. But now showing the entire line is less than desirable.

Personally, I'd be happy with a diff -c output.

You can probably tell I don't let vbHacker change my code or database or templates. 1) I would need chmod my files, 2) I tend to block-comment around installed hacks.

Itworx4me 04-23-2002 04:32 AM

2 Thumbs up for vBhacker

JediKNight 04-26-2002 05:44 PM

It works for me.

This hacks is great since it helps you to organize your installed hacks, and help you keep track of your own hacks too.

I believe many here have made code modifications in their files but forgot to keep track, later on when they need to reload the original files they overwritten their hacks also..

This hack will help more people use your hacks since it's easy for them to install. --> chances are your hacks will be more popular if you follow the format..

If people don't want to use the vbhacker, they can always read the feeder files (*.hack.php) themselves ... well.. to learn and such..

I don't see the point of voting NO on this thread. I don't vote against something that is helpful and can save my time.. :)

This is a great idea and a good work!

Jedi

roxics 07-04-2002 07:15 AM

Yes

Because I'm a newbie and I take 4 times longer then anyone else to install hacks because I'm are scared to death of the code.

ULTIMATESSJ 07-04-2002 10:40 PM

welli voted yes, it can be pretty helpful when you wanna hurry up and install a hack, and if i have the time, i can generate the txt file, it is a time saver, but i don't use it too often, as of the lack of vbhacker hacks there is

Chris M 07-05-2002 09:08 AM

I love vBhacker...

However, I voted No. This is because, even though it is a great script, I want to see the code itself...I prefer .txt files, because I dont have to upload a file to my ftp just to read the code...I like to read what I have to do in advance, and then try and figure out how it works...

vBhacker would be of great help to me if I had the wish to decrease the site's security...I dont want to, and most likely, I would forget to reverse the procedure...

I would prefer it if people posted a .txt file and a vBhacker file...

Even better : Why not generate a text file from vBhacker itself, after creating the hack, that way the .txt files will all look the same, and people will have the best of both worlds...

I simply do not see the need to upload a file simply to read the coding...

Satan

chr@nox 07-23-2002 08:58 PM

Voted :no

However i really like the idea of vBhacker, and it's a GREAT piece of art.

i want to see what code i add/delete/replace so i can understand what happens..

(the better you understand it the better you get right?)

honestly, i never tried vBhacker, i'm pretty sure it's a great hack.
maybe i'll try it sometime soon ;)

i always take the time for adding a hack, even when it's a simple small hack because i fully want to understand what's happening in there.
example : it took me 40minutes to install random quote on forumhome by lesane,
just because i wanted to know what happened in the files

:)

amity 08-07-2002 06:59 PM

i just want to comment to this thread. i voted yes, because i think it is a great idea.

however, i am a newbie to php- and if you don't try something you won't learn. i am no longer scared to death to work on the code and try to learn something about what i am doing. i do hope that everyone takes a little time to familiarize themselves with the code and their hacks... it will be for the best in the long run.

people can't help you all the time, sometimes you have to do a little bit for yourself. ;)

am

nghiasi 09-27-2002 11:05 AM

The hacks is pretty much useful........ but the problem is sometimes Its' can't find the find to edited.
Anyway I think the hack is really help out much. Thanks FireFly :) and other who updates that hacks!

Bison 09-29-2002 01:36 AM

I voted NO because I believe the initial intent was to develop an application that allow users a easier method of installing the hack first and it does a very poor job at that. I've tested the program on a clean set of code and it still couldn't find lines of code to insert the hack. When I generated the text file and searched for the code myself, all tha lines that the program couldn't find were found pretty easy!

I assume that the author knew when developing this application, that a previous hacked board would nullify the process, and put in this alternative method. It's the only part of the program that works ...

So in summary, it doesn't do was it was intially intended to do! The string compare process doesn't compensate for line breaks, and modified code. From what I observed, the file that needs to be modified, HAS to be structured Line, by line with no wrap around functions.

It was a great idea with good intent but better suited for creating text file instructions which is it's strong part.

Neo 09-29-2002 08:16 AM

Its funny... everyone asked for a auto hacker back in the day and now no one uses it anymore. I really think it is useful for people that dont want to ++++ up their PHP files... its to bad....

Big Kahuna 10-22-2002 11:12 PM

I like the concept -- but I'm still having to go in a modifying all of the php files cuz I'm having a problem with CuteFTPs' chmod. It says it is doing it -- but vbhacks says they're still locked.

I have 15 viewing styles (www.moparstyle.net) so it is a real time saver.

Big Kahuna 10-22-2002 11:14 PM

BTW -- we all know my now that being a board admin is a thankless job. Everyone wants stuff, they're usually unwilling to help, and do not appear to appreciate the trouble people go through to give them more features. People just like to complain.

Erwin 10-22-2002 11:56 PM

Just got around to this poll - I voted "no" because I prefer looking at the code I add to files for the following reasons:

1) Security - never now what loophole bad code can create in your forums - so always check the code you add.

2) Improvements - most of the time I can rationalize hacks so that they are more efficient, use less queries and fit better with my site.

3) Debugging - if bugs occur, I know where to look for errors.

XtremeVigilante 10-25-2002 10:16 AM

Where can you dl vBhacker?
lol. Sorry, can't find it!

kreatiV 10-26-2002 10:13 AM

I did not vote because I have not tried vBHacker, however I just tried to install a hack on my local system, this one:

Avatars Hack (Categories & Permissions) for vBulletin 2.2.x
v1.31 (9-29-2002) - 2001,2002 Bad Madman
tested with vB Version 2.2.5 - 2.2.8

And, IMHO, this has by far THE best Instructions and Install Util that I have seen for a hack. Especially the double click on the code that you need to find or to replace. It is simple and clear to understand, even for people that do not know too much about coding ( as myself ).

I wish there were more hacks that installed as easy as this one.

Avatar Hack 1.31

The Quibbler 10-12-2003 04:34 PM

Would anyone mind telling me what vbHacker is? Maybe give me a link? Sorry, I'm new around here.

Dean C 10-13-2003 03:31 PM

This is an old thread and if you had searhced you would have found it :)

It's a hack by firefly basically which creates installer php files which automatically install hacks for you. However I haven't seen a hack with it for ages due to the fact that often code changes are made to the same line.

KuraFire 10-13-2003 06:39 PM

I'm building a more comprehensive system similar to the vBHacker, but then one that will still let you (or rather, force you to) make all the file edits yourself. So, the favorite pastime of most people in this thread, as far as installing Hacks goes, is kept the same - you do the file edits manually. It's all the other stuff that gets automated with my system (queries, running custom PHP code, importing phrases and templates, creating menu items automatically, creating template groups automatically, etc.). Oh, and mine is only for vB3 of course... :)

I'll post a big thread about it tomorrow :)


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