That's what I mean. Transfer ownership rights of the domain, rather than completely cancel and re-register it.

Wouldn't that depend on who it was registered with?? IE Network solutions??

Heh, that would probably take longer.
It was already canceled, probably because it wasn't validated yet or something.

I believe someone said it was registered with OpenSRS.

It would be pretty much instant actually...just change the registrant name/billing name etc from the control panel and it's done.

But seeing as you've already cancelled it this information is worthless :D

WTF SOMEONE PURCHASED IT AGAIN!!! :mad::mad::mad:

j/k, it's me. :D

hehhehe...

Actually it WAS validated but i cancelled it so you could buy it :)

Thanks Shadow

nah you shouldn't thank me i shouldn't have registered it in the first place.

Next time i have an idea i'll use the search first to see if noone else has the same idea.

yeah

Will we get sshots of the design once its complete? I'd like to check it out. :)

That's really upto Sinecure and Prolex.

But anyway, I got something important.
We of course don't want to support / help pirates.
But also, no one will enter his licence info there, and even if someone did, we have no way of verifying that.
So do you have any ideas of how we can know that this user is a paying customer of vBulletin?

Thanks for any ideas. :)

Well, there's no way you can validate their license info like we have here, because the site can't have access to the vB License database. You'd have to have enough moderators on the staff that could check here when it is suspicious.

I can't see any feasible way to have them enter the info at vbhacks as well.

Create an area in the profile (required field) that asks for a certain word that is in the member area. This field in the profile should not be shown to anyone except Mods and Admins. And then add something that shows an icon or something in their profile so everyone else knows whether they entered it or not.

You could even make it kinda like a password during registration possibly.

or something along these lines. Can't think of nothing else. :(

That's what I thought James, maybe a mod from here could have special access to the user stuff, so he can "tick" users.
But I'm not sure you guys are alowed to publicize this info (cuss you don't allow us see it here).

That's probably what we're gonna do, eventually, if don't find anything better.
But of course it won't be a word (like "download" :p), more like a sentence.

I dunno, this is a really tough one.

I think that first of all, you should REQUIRE a link to their homepage and maybe hack it so if they want, it will be private to everyone except mods and admins. This would probably help you out.

As for the members themselves, maybe require that you have an account on this site with their liscence info entered in....i dunno, that's quite a predicament, how does UBBDEV handle this? Maybe if you guys get sanctioned officially by jelsoft, you can have a liscence info or confirmation code field. IE: jelsoft writes a script that will generate a code for you based on your liscence info and they could have a semi private script that will decode it and check it against the user database and tell you without disclosing any info about the actual key....you could also hack it so each key entered into your forums has to be unique per user...

I dunno, just some thoughts...btw, if you guys need help with site design/matinence/moderating I am glad to help, I love vB and I'm starting to REALLY learn it.

~Ian

Good ideas Ian.

I added a yes/no button about the homepage, so that's also something.

This sounds a good idea.. i allready run a small VB help and hacks forum on my site and have been looking for a way to check if a user has a valid licience. at the moment i have to email Mike with there licience number NOT there licience password number.. but this would be a lot better..

Ed/Mike was, i think, working on a way round this for vbulletin.org. I think the idea was that you typed in your username and password and then the script checked to see if that combination would have given access to the member's area. If so then it works if not it dosen't.

Whether jelsoft will be happy about you asking for member's info I don't know but it is a thought anyway.

But the main problem is getting the users to enter their licence information into their profile.
I know I wouldn't give it to anyone that is not an official representor of Jelsoft.

We can probably not even store the password in the database (I *think* that's how it's done here, right?), but just check it as they enter it.
Hell, we don't even need the customer number.
Just enter, click a button, and you'll be verified.
But even then we will need to convince everyone that this is REALLY how it's done, and we're not tricking them.

I agree...the pirates must be stopped....

I think that having to enter a word from the members page is the most reasonable....The other ideas are great if you could do it though.

Where about 3/4 done the design btw..Me and my bro Prolex should have it done by tonight :)

That's kinda easy, well, the idea is. If they dont enter in their registration number, hack it so their title is something like "Unverified Customer" or something likr that...the ideas are easy for me, the hacks are not ;)

The thing about vBulletin.org is that I believe it's hosted on this server, so it would be easy to gain access to the license database.

While it is possible to get access remotely, I doubt very much that is going to happen...

As I see it you have two options:

1) Get endorsed by Jelsoft and we can write you a script that will check without revealing any info
2) Ask for a specific word from the members' area

Ian: That would definitely not be allowed. We don't publicise whether people have info here, and there's no way we can allow that to happen elsewhere.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JamesUS
Ian: That would definitely not be allowed. We don't publicise whether people have info here, and there's no way we can allow that to happen elsewhere.

Who would we have to talk to in order to get endorsed by Jelsoft. I know its a long shot but Its something we should try for. I dont want to be supporting piraters in anyway what so ever!

Dont James and John get back soon? Would we have to talk to them?

Guys, What if you made it a private, read only board with the only registration link being in Jelsoft's member area? (If you could get them to put that link there for you)

Then, you would simply have a script that made sure that any registration requests came from that link and nowhere else.

This would put the burden of verification on Jelsoft. It would also allow people to remain anonymous if they like so privacy is maintained. All you care about is that they have access to the member area.

Amy

hmm, thats a good idea. I think it should be considered :)

Yes that's a good idea.

Re John and James; they are supposed to be back by now but they're not :( Probably decided to stay a bit longer :D
We'll let you know any updates on that.

I also like that idea, but I'm afraid it will make the registration process a lot more complicated, something none of us want.
I mean, it'll take me at least an hour to find my licence info in my email records.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JamesUS
Re John and James; they are supposed to be back by now but they're not :( Probably decided to stay a bit longer :D
We'll let you know any updates on that.

While it might not be entirely kosher, it wouldn't be hard to write a script that would run a simulated user entering their license info in the members area entrance script and checking if it lets them in. That wouldn't require access to anything and it wouldn't return any license info.

That's true.

A little dodgy though :) I think the best option is to wait for James and John to come back, and let them okay a quickie script that can confirm whether a specified user is validated or not (but not store the info anywhere).

ALright, that sounds like the plan then :) *Wheew, Whipes Sweat* heheheh lol :D

Anyone have their cell number?? hehe I would be willing to phone :D

LOL

While I'm sure we could find it around somewhere, I'm also sure they won't want to be disturbed on their extra long holiday :) :D

The best we can do for now is to leave that particular aspect of the site until they return.

LOL, yeah their Xtra Xtra long holiday. :D :D
The design is pretty much done and we are starting to intergrate around the forums and what not :)

damnit, my ideas are getting shot down left and right ;)

anyway, I think that maybe instead of the actual customer info being put in, a seperate code could be generated and encrypted in md5, that way it's more secure because not only will they have to crack md5, but also un encode the string to even have any idea what PART of that code is. Maybe base it on their first and last names and their number and password....Then all jelsoft has to do is write the script to decrypt the password based on the aligrotom(sp?)...shjouldn't be too hard and it would allow customer codes to be displayed publically, and besides, they wouldn't have the password if they managed to crack that.

Just a thought...and it'll probably get shot down again. ;)

Well it seems like a good idea, but because I am more impatent then Prolex at writing PHP or encrypting de-crypting I would leave it up to The PHP gurus :D heheh no offence Prolex :)

Lets see what they have to say
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Sounds good, but two points:
1) The license info still can't be displayed publicly in any shape or form.

2) You can't decrypt md5, but I'm sure we could find an algorithm that you can decrypt :)

hmmmm, SO its just a matter of waiting for James and John :D

http://www.vbhacks.com

Alright, DNS servers have updated :)

We got a little random image/bg color going on :) The design is all done and we are working on the intergration and colors for the forums, + graphics too.

We will be waiting for James and John to get back in order to resolve this verification issue. Hopefully they dont take their sweet time :)

We'll let everyone know when the site is launched!