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Ramsesx 09-08-2011 08:09 PM

Ted, thanks for your support, so far it works nice.
Only a few things.
This fields are not showing:
- Manufacturer
- short description
- and the new added Location field

If rating is 4 stars it's showing 4 1/2 stars.
What's the point of the links "Read all 1 reviews" and "View all reviews on x"?
A first suggestion, it would be nice to have the options now in settings - options - Product Reviews Forum Settings moved to the other options in the left side.
The description in the Product Reviews Forum Settings are some kind of confusing.
I wrote a review with my admin account plus a review with a mod account, the review of the mod account is only visible for the admin account but not for the mod account who wrote the review.
If clicking at "Read all two reviews" it's listed but not in the review thread itself.
But at all it's a cool start and has some great potential Ted, thanks again.

fechten 09-08-2011 11:38 PM

This looks promising. I'll be testing it out tomorrow.

I'd be really interested in a bulk product upload to this. I'll dig into the files tomorrow.

Ted S 09-09-2011 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsesx (Post 2243580)
Ted, thanks for your support, so far it works nice.
Only a few things.
This fields are not showing:
- Manufacturer
- short description
- and the new added Location field

The short description shows in the optional forumdisplay hack.

Location and Manufacturer are added in 1.0.4

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If rating is 4 stars it's showing 4 1/2 stars.
It should round to the nearest half. I'll take a look.

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What's the point of the links "Read all 1 reviews" and "View all reviews on x"?
To let people go from one review back to more reviews. If you don't like the link, you can edit the template.

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A first suggestion, it would be nice to have the options now in settings - options - Product Reviews Forum Settings moved to the other options in the left side.
I can add a shortcut link, easy enough.

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The description in the Product Reviews Forum Settings are some kind of confusing.
You'll have to be more specific...

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I wrote a review with my admin account plus a review with a mod account, the review of the mod account is only visible for the admin account but not for the mod account who wrote the review
Did you enable the moderation option? If so, you need to approve the review first [as an admin].

Mr_Running 09-09-2011 12:19 AM

1.0.3 will not uninstall from product manager Installed Products?
I have removed all files from server but still can not uninstall product.

I would like to remove this so I can do a fresh install. How can I remove it?

Ted S 09-09-2011 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fechten (Post 2243688)
This looks promising. I'll be testing it out tomorrow.

I'd be really interested in a bulk product upload to this. I'll dig into the files tomorrow.

We do a numbre of bulk imports on our shopping site using XML. Would that work for an import for you?

Ted S 09-09-2011 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Running (Post 2243705)
1.0.3 will not uninstall from product manager Installed Products?
I have removed all files from server but still can not uninstall product.

I would like to remove this so I can do a fresh install. How can I remove it?

You'll need to be more specific on your issue to be able to help you. The install / uninstall method is the proper path but if it failed part way through, things get more complex.

Ted S 09-09-2011 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsesx (Post 2243580)
If rating is 4 stars it's showing 4 1/2 stars.

4 and 4/5 images got mixed up. Fixed in 1.0.4 as well.

Sforums 09-09-2011 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2243738)
4 and 4/5 images got mixed up. Fixed in 1.0.4 as well.

Is 1.0.4. released yet?

fechten 09-09-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2243725)
We do a numbre of bulk imports on our shopping site using XML. Would that work for an import for you?

I tend to use csv files, but I can export my product feed into xml so as long as I can figure out the specs that should be good. That will also let me pull a bunch of products on amazon.

Ramsesx 09-09-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2243704)
Did you enable the moderation option? If so, you need to approve the review first [as an admin].

"Screen New Reviews" is set to no but just saw I had the usergroup permissions wrong.
Sorry.

Mr_Running 09-09-2011 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2243728)
You'll need to be more specific on your issue to be able to help you. The install / uninstall method is the proper path but if it failed part way through, things get more complex.

Confirm Deletion: Product Review Forums - Structured Rating System

Are you sure you want to uninstall the product called 'Product Review Forums - Structured Rating System'?
(productid: product_forums)

This action cannot be undone.

Click: Yes

Fails and receive this error

Database error in vBulletin 4.1.5:

Code:

Invalid SQL:
DROP TABLE `pf_product`;

MySQL Error  : Unknown table 'pf_product'
Error Number  : 1051
Request Date  : Friday, September 9th 2011 @ 02:51:52 PM
Error Date    : Friday, September 9th 2011 @ 02:51:53 PM
Script        : http:// www. mysite. com/admincp/plugin.php?do=productkill
Referrer      : http:// www. mysite. com/admincp/plugin.php?do=productdelete&productid=product_forums&s=


Ted S 09-10-2011 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Running (Post 2244051)
Confirm Deletion: Product Review Forums - Structured Rating System

That error is because the table has already been dropped.

You'll need to install it then uninstall again to see where it actually is failing.

Ted S 09-10-2011 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fechten (Post 2243900)
I tend to use csv files, but I can export my product feed into xml so as long as I can figure out the specs that should be good. That will also let me pull a bunch of products on amazon.

Cool.

I'm off for a week but will add this in shortly. XML tends to be better for product data as it allows line breaks, special characters and flexible formats without having to move things around.

Ted S 09-10-2011 05:45 AM

Version 1.0.4 beta released. This is a minor bug fix & feature tweak update.

- added manufacturer field to the product box
- added location field to review posts
- changed review posts to not show under a particular user if annonymous
- replaced image/rating/pf/stars-green-4.png which incorrectly shows 4.5 stars
- fixes bug with "View all reviews on..." phrase to add .php to links

AURFSCAN 09-10-2011 06:43 AM

any demo where i can click a link to a site and see this installed?

also, only admin can create a product for review?

thanks

Ted S 09-10-2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AURFSCAN (Post 2244168)
any demo where i can click a link to a site and see this installed?

No one has shared a public install as of it, but as most sites don't want people testing around that's fair. The screenshots cover the features.

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also, only admin can create a product for review?
At this time, yes.

Sforums 09-10-2011 11:02 AM

Absolute disaster on 4.1.0!
Installed modification and allocated subforum for single product for purpose of testing. It changed the title of every single topic in all vendors forums (even though I've chosen single subforum) to test the title. More than thousand of threads have been renamed even I uninstalled the modification. Trying to rename them back to original titles and can't be done!!
I am absolutelly desperate to bring my forum back to original state. Wish I never touched beta product. These things should be properly tested before released to public.

Sforums 09-10-2011 11:08 AM

As a matter of fact every single thread on the forum has been renamed. This is the worst thing ever happened to me in 6 years on vb forums!

ProFifaLeagues 09-10-2011 11:24 AM

We have been using it on 4.1.3 and so far its done a 100% job without any problems or errors at all,Superb support on the mod too From Ted and our forum members have been very happy with it.

jshallo 09-10-2011 02:14 PM

Hi, Just installed this on 4.1.3 and I got as far as adding products and it creates a product page (new thread) and one empty post under it. However, When I attempt to add the first review its taking me to a white screen at http://www.yoursite.com/forums/productforums.php

I like what you have here but, find myself wanting to customize some things for my type of reviews (cruise ship reviews). So maybe we can work on this together and tailor it to my needs and I'll list it as a live demo. My concern with editing too much now is that it would be too hard to upgrade this later on once its been modified too much now.

Some things I noticed.

1. Review submission box was small for a ship review and lacked the full editor that would allow users to include photos, videos, etc like a forum post. So I would like a (advanced editor option (on or off) per product option. The advanced would have the advanced forum editor box.

2. Products one thing about ship reviews is the (product) would have a parent category (the cruise line) and then the ships within the line. (ie Royal Caribbean) and then all the ships (Oasis of the Seas, Allure of the Seas, Navigator of the Seas).. etc.

3. Price - You have price as mandatory and I'm not selling a product, just displaying the review. So this would need to be an option (on or off) in the product settings?

4. Some added options? Launch Date (Inaugural), Link to Deck Plans, Link to Cruise Line, Discussion Forum Link, Related Videos Link.

Thanks for listening.

Ted S 09-10-2011 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sforums (Post 2244225)
Absolute disaster on 4.1.0!
Installed modification and allocated subforum for single product for purpose of testing. It changed the title of every single topic in all vendors forums (even though I've chosen single subforum) to test the title. More than thousand of threads have been renamed even I uninstalled the modification. Trying to rename them back to original titles and can't be done!!
I am absolutelly desperate to bring my forum back to original state. Wish I never touched beta product. These things should be properly tested before released to public.

This mod does not update your database on anything that already exists on install. It does not rename thread titles. It does not care about current threads.

So, let's figure out what's happening and get your forum back in order...

Did you have this issue after installing? After adding a product? After adding a review?

Have you checked your database to see if the thread titles were actually changed or merely getting displayed wrong?

To test run: SELECT title FROM [table_prefix]thread WHERE forumid = XXX LIMIT 10.

Did you run this on a LIVE site or a DEV site?

And while I absolutely agree that nothing negative should happen, which is why testing is done before anything is released. However, there are an infinite number of forum options, other modifications and configurations which can introduce problems... that's why this mod is clearly labeled beta. But that's not what counts... right now let's focus on fixing up your forum.

Ted S 09-10-2011 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammieone (Post 2244231)
We have been using it on 4.1.3 and so far its done a 100% job without any problems or errors at all,Superb support on the mod too From Ted and our forum members have been very happy with it.

Thank you!

Ted S 09-10-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshallo (Post 2244267)
Hi, Just installed this on 4.1.3 and I got as far as adding products and it creates a product page (new thread) and one empty post under it. However, When I attempt to add the first review its taking me to a white screen at http://www.yoursite.com/forums/productforums.php

White pages are a pain to diagnose but we'll figure it out...

Is the blank poage showing up when you click write a review or when you go to submit it? Does the url structure look correct to your forum?

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I like what you have here but, find myself wanting to customize some things for my type of reviews (cruise ship reviews). So maybe we can work on this together and tailor it to my needs and I'll list it as a live demo. My concern with editing too much now is that it would be too hard to upgrade this later on once its been modified too much now.
The mod is built using the vBulletin plugin system's flexibility so even if you customize the heck out of the templates, you can update the base code. When I release template changes they are documented so you can make any you want easily.

If you want to get really extensive I'd suggest waiting until after the "beta" ends as the release cycle is a little high pace right now.

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1. Review submission box was small for a ship review and lacked the full editor that would allow users to include photos, videos, etc like a forum post. So I would like a (advanced editor option (on or off) per product option. The advanced would have the advanced forum editor box.
I'll have to see how the advanced editor works for inline vs attachment images. The attachment system is not flexible and while I realize this doesn't concern you much, I'd like to avoid trying doing anything that requires direct uploads for a bit.

Otherwise I hear you loud & clear and can add in the WYSIWYG editor easily enough.

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2. Products one thing about ship reviews is the (product) would have a parent category (the cruise line) and then the ships within the line. (ie Royal Caribbean) and then all the ships (Oasis of the Seas, Allure of the Seas, Navigator of the Seas).. etc.
So you'd need a 3 category tree but more likely an infinite category tree...

Now the big point: Since reviews show up in forums you would either have to create a structure with forums or put them all into one area and then highly promote the search tool to find them by category [i.e. a pretty page with all the sorting options]. Does that sound right?

Quote:

3. Price - You have price as mandatory and I'm not selling a product, just displaying the review. So this would need to be an option (on or off) in the product settings?
Easy enough.

Quote:

4. Some added options? Launch Date (Inaugural), Link to Deck Plans, Link to Cruise Line, Discussion Forum Link, Related Videos Link.
I'm looking into ways to let you add your own fields as it's obviously not logical to have a database of hundreds of options for every type of product. Great idea of course!

jshallo 09-10-2011 06:33 PM

Hi Ted, I upgraded the forum to 4.1.5 and tried to submit a review again. It came back with a special error message.

"Oh great, you had to go and press THAT button. There goes the whole site. Just kidding... We had an issue posting your review, please try again or contact support and use code 164250-A"


Url: http://www.cruise-addicts.com/forums/productforums.php

Ted S 09-10-2011 06:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jshallo (Post 2244342)
Hi Ted, I upgraded the forum to 4.1.5 and tried to submit a review again. It came back with a special error message.

"Oh great, you had to go and press THAT button. There goes the whole site. Just kidding... We had an issue posting your review, please try again or contact support and use code 164250-A"


Url: http://www.cruise-addicts.com/forums/productforums.php

Was actually just working on this code... Nice timing.

Mind giving the attached copy of upload/productforums.php a shot? Also be sure your forumcache is properly set.

To be clear, this error comes when you have enabled the "create review thread" option. If you did not intend that option to run please let me know.

jshallo 09-10-2011 06:49 PM

Is the blank poage showing up when you click write a review or when you go to submit it? Does the url structure look correct to your forum?

When I submit it.

Now shows "vBulletin Message
Oh great, you had to go and press THAT button. There goes the whole site. Just kidding... We had an issue posting your review, please try again or contact support and use code 164250-A"

The url structure appears ok, however the productforums.php is in root.. which is fine if that where it belongs.

WYSIWYG

WYSIWYG is not a priority but, probably would be a nice option.

Categories:

http://www.cruise-addicts.com/reviews/index.php


Here is what I have in place now. So this may answer a many of your questions. Note the lists of ships and how you can select from the drop-down menu a specific ship.

The reviews are displayed by most recent submission. So one Cruise Review forum sorted by newest with each thread being a unique ship review would work.

Note that my setup is not perfect but, I think it can be improved with better software and VBSEO and good integration your mod provides.

Ted S 09-10-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshallo (Post 2244347)
Now shows "vBulletin Message
Oh great, you had to go and press THAT button. There goes the whole site. Just kidding... We had an issue posting your review, please try again or contact support and use code 164250-A"

Think the updated version I just posted should fix the error... we'll see where that gets things.

Quote:

WYSIWYG is not a priority but, probably would be a nice option.
It would have to be without HTML but I doubt that's a big deal. Playing with the code now.

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Categories:
Here is what I have in place now. So this may answer a many of your questions. Note the lists of ships and how you can select from the drop-down menu a specific ship.

The reviews are displayed by most recent submission. So one Cruise Review forum sorted by newest with each thread being a unique ship review would work.
The dropdowns will be a bit tricky but with some fun code they'd basically progressively expand so if you have 3 layers, you'd get 3 dropdowns building as you select [and updating results along the way with our good friend AJAX].

Users will also be able to search by rating range, when the review was posted, product [or ship] title, and so forth.

As far as the one forum, one thread, we're already good there so it's really much more about getting categories in place and searching than changing any core code.

TheLastSuperman 09-10-2011 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sforums (Post 2244225)
Absolute disaster on 4.1.0!
Installed modification and allocated subforum for single product for purpose of testing. It changed the title of every single topic in all vendors forums (even though I've chosen single subforum) to test the title. More than thousand of threads have been renamed even I uninstalled the modification. Trying to rename them back to original titles and can't be done!!
I am absolutelly desperate to bring my forum back to original state. Wish I never touched beta product. These things should be properly tested before released to public.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sforums (Post 2244227)
As a matter of fact every single thread on the forum has been renamed. This is the worst thing ever happened to me in 6 years on vb forums!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rammieone (Post 2244231)
We have been using it on 4.1.3 and so far its done a 100% job without any problems or errors at all,Superb support on the mod too From Ted and our forum members have been very happy with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted S (Post 2244325)
This mod does not update your database on anything that already exists on install. It does not rename thread titles. It does not care about current threads.

So, let's figure out what's happening and get your forum back in order...

Did you have this issue after installing? After adding a product? After adding a review?

Have you checked your database to see if the thread titles were actually changed or merely getting displayed wrong?

To test run: SELECT title FROM [table_prefix]thread WHERE forumid = XXX LIMIT 10.

Did you run this on a LIVE site or a DEV site?

And while I absolutely agree that nothing negative should happen, which is why testing is done before anything is released. However, there are an infinite number of forum options, other modifications and configurations which can introduce problems... that's why this mod is clearly labeled beta. But that's not what counts... right now let's focus on fixing up your forum.

I have not had any issues with this modification, in fact I even noticed a misc issue and contacted Ted about it and he already had it in the next version, furthermore I don't see anything within the code that would do this?

To anyone and everyone reading this from here on out, this goes for EVERY modification on this site - Anything marked as Beta and/or anything that deals with your database should throw up a red flag telling you to either:

1) Install on a test site first.
2) If you install on a Live/Production site make a database backup beforehand then install the modification and test the functionality before turning the forums back on - this way if something is not quite right or goes wrong you can restore the backup promptly then turn the forum back on and return to the modification thread and report the error. *You just avoided much stress and can always be confident that your dealing with a Beta product correctly ;).

jshallo 09-10-2011 07:02 PM

Hi Ted, Yes the new file fixed the problem. I did have it set to create a new thread for each new review but, now that I see it in action I don't think its what I wanted. So I may have to change this setting. I'll look forward to what you come up with and making it work for my needs. Most review sites don't have very much video, photos so its not a priority but, I think embed options that VB use would be nice possibly.

Ted S 09-10-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 2244353)
Furthermore I don't see anything within the code that would do this?

Your remarks on beta installs should be stuck with any thread but of course any serious error gets me worried. However, I'm just not seeing anything that could cause a mass-rewrite either.

Hopefully the poster chimes in with some additional insight so I can track down what happened, if it was this mod, a conflict, whatever.

Ted S 09-10-2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshallo (Post 2244354)
Hi Ted, Yes the new file fixed the problem. I did have it set to create a new thread for each new review but, now that I see it in action I don't think its what I wanted. So I may have to change this setting. I'll look forward to what you come up with and making it work for my needs. Most review sites don't have very much video, photos so its not a priority but, I think embed options that VB use would be nice possibly.

Thankfully links and embeding are easy so it's more about just letting you define your own fields than worrying about what's in them.

What i'll probably end up with is:

Text Fields
Yes / No fields
Additional Images [url]
Video [url]

On the other side you have user contributions which are a little more tricky to process since users aren't likely to FTP up an image.

jshallo 09-10-2011 07:24 PM

Ok, I'll wait for your next update.

Ted S 09-11-2011 03:03 AM

PRF users -

I will be traveling for the next few days and not on to check this thread. Please chime in with any questions or suggestions you have and I will get back to you later next week.

PaintballHQ 09-11-2011 03:14 PM

Thanks for putting this together Ted!

I have some suggestions that I was thinking of.

Having the products rating based on the average of the following: (maybe customizable options depending on what your site is geared toward)
  • Appearance
  • Performance
  • Reliability
  • Value
Customizable fields like you said would be great. I need to have fields for Pros & Cons.

Define what user group(s) can add a new product/service for review & what user group(s) can submit a review.

Da-Vinci 09-14-2011 02:10 AM

Hi Ted, your mod looks really good, but when I install it, the thread the review should show in, just displays the title and below it says.
Quote:

This is an empty post
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/09/26.png

Not sure what I could have done wrong, I uploaded everything to the root and installed the product via the product manager.

When I visit http://www.cameraguru.co.uk/productforums.php I just get redirected to the CMS.

Here is how I've got the settings.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/09/27.png

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/09/28.png

angeljs 09-14-2011 10:00 AM

Hi, I'm receiving this error message when trying to add a product:

Code:

Something went terribly wrong in creating your review. End of the line.
Not sure why :(

Ted S 09-15-2011 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaintballHQ (Post 2244603)
Thanks for putting this together Ted!

I have some suggestions that I was thinking of.


Having the products rating based on the average of the following: (maybe customizable options depending on what your site is geared toward)
  • Appearance
  • Performance
  • Reliability
  • Value
Customizable fields like you said would be great. I need to have fields for Pros & Cons.

Define what user group(s) can add a new product/service for review & what user group(s) can submit a review.

Expanded ratings with attributes are definitely on the roadmap -- both in terms of stars and also descriptions of "who" is writing the product [for example, a pro may not like the new tipman while novice users find it a great buy].

Groups is also a fun idea around posting products. Thanks!

Ted S 09-15-2011 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angeljs (Post 2245768)
Hi, I'm receiving this error message when trying to add a product:

Code:

Something went terribly wrong in creating your review. End of the line.
Not sure why :(

Did you pick a forum to save the product too?

Does it have the rights to be posted in?

Ted S 09-15-2011 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da-Vinci (Post 2245655)
Hi Ted, your mod looks really good, but when I install it, the thread the review should show in, just displays the title and below it says.


Not sure what I could have done wrong, I uploaded everything to the root and installed the product via the product manager.

When I visit http://www.cameraguru.co.uk/productforums.php I just get redirected to the CMS.

Here is how I've got the settings.



This post should be wrapped in a hidden div. Can you check for the code:

Code:

<div style="display:none;">
By view sourcing the page?

Ramsesx 09-15-2011 09:43 AM

Some more suggestions, it would be nice to have the reviews listed in the user profiles in a new tab. And an overview of all reviews on productforums.php, and some informations like most viewed reviews, latest reviews etc. like you can see it here. A lot of work, I know but maybe you could think about offering later a paid pro version.


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