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andrew.lee 07-26-2011 11:25 PM

You can customize your site by logging into our backend at http://www.envolve.com

Here is a video that explains how to change colors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ4AC...el_video_title

Lee G 07-26-2011 11:46 PM

I found this was setting off the check 4 hacking mod
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...69#post2225369

A few sweaty moments on that one :o

andrew.lee 07-27-2011 12:38 AM

Hi Lee - I'm not familiar with the check 4 hacking mod, so I don't know why it would be saying that. Our service runs everything through *our* servers, so it won't open up your servers to any new hacking threats. Might want to check with the authors of that mod to see what went wrong there.

Lee G 07-27-2011 09:41 AM

It was the early hours here when I was trying and testing, and I did not intend to come across as being rude by saying there were problems and then going quiet

Check 4 hacking, basically checks for code injections and other problems
I run further tests last night to see what it was reporting when this is installed
The error I got when doing a manual run of the check 4 hacking tests was Corrupt Datastore found!, pluginlist

The idea and concept of this system is brilliant
In the half hour I had it running, there were four people that had noticed it on the forum and decided to stay around and use it
The translation system thats built into it, again is another brilliant idea

BirdOPrey5 07-27-2011 10:54 AM

This is the mod Lee is talking about: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=265866

Although he is a little mistaken about what it does... it only scans all plugins for the string "base64" and if found reports the plugin as compromised because there has never been legit reason for base64 encoding to be used in plugins and 99.9% of the time it means a plugin was hacked.

I suggest eliminating the base64 encoding if possible or going back to having the code in a php file instead of a plugin.

andrew.lee 07-27-2011 05:10 PM

Ahh. Interesting. Yes, we do use base64 encoding. We do this to avoid corruption when we are sending your usernames / profile pictures to the chat servers. We have to sign this data and send it over the web so it's much safer to do this if no wierd characters are being used. This is actually for added security : )

Equarter 07-27-2011 08:07 PM

I have an Arabic forum, when I installed it, the Arabic user names was not showing correctly, the Arabic letters were seen as question mark, any help?

andrew.lee 07-27-2011 08:23 PM

@Equarter - We've heard similar reports of this. We'll look into the issue. Sorry about this! It'll probably require an update to the plugin to fix.

Equarter 07-27-2011 08:36 PM

thanks waiting for the issue to be resolved, loved the mod, but I can't use it now, :(

sailnet 07-29-2011 04:13 PM

this may have been answered already - Like this and would signup for the pro plan but I'd like to try it out first just for my moderators. if there a way to expose the chat toolbar just for a certain group...i.e. my moderators?

thanks

BirdOPrey5 07-29-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailnet (Post 2226492)
this may have been answered already - Like this and would signup for the pro plan but I'd like to try it out first just for my moderators. if there a way to expose the chat toolbar just for a certain group...i.e. my moderators?

thanks

There is an option, Restricted Usergroups, where you can block access to everyone but mods if you want.

sailnet 08-03-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigrafix (Post 2161845)
Can you make it so we can choose usergrounps who can use the chat???

yes

sailnet 08-03-2011 12:42 PM

We just installed this mod and signed up for a paid account on envolve.

we have a few requests that we think are important.

1) is there any way to reduce the font size? - the font sizes you guys use are bigger than we'd like and we'd like to make the fonts smaller.
2) is there anyway to restrict our forum members from creating open chat rooms. we really only want the general members to chat with each other and we'd like to restrict the creation of general chat rooms to admins & moderators.

can these be done?

both items are very important to us.

andrew.lee 08-03-2011 07:57 PM

Thanks for signing up Sailnet! Happy to answer questions.

In regards to the fonts, you can have some limited control over font selection from our "Skinning" panel on our backend (http://www.envolve.com/admin). Font size is currently not an option, though we are intending to make this much more flexible in the future.

You can definitely disallow the creation of new chats by general members. This option, and many other options, are available from the Options tab on our backend (http://www.envolve.com/admin)

Hope that helps!

Lee G 09-08-2011 09:29 PM

Nice feature being able to turn it on and off, great little chat add on :up:

Lee G 09-09-2011 09:02 AM

For some reason, the only part on my forums this does not show is the forum index page
And the only person that can see it is me
Logged in from two accounts and it only shows on my admin account
For some reason it does not show on the normal users accounts

Lee G 09-09-2011 11:17 AM

Further testing with other skins on my forum and it looks like it dont add some code to my default skin. All the other skins work fine apart from the default one

Lee G 09-09-2011 11:43 AM

Looks like the skin I use as default is missing a hook in the footer

All I need is the code to add to the footer template

Lee G 09-09-2011 08:10 PM

Been through and sorted the code now.
It was the way completevb had coded the footer on the orange style.
Makes a change to be putting things right in one of their skins
The only place I cant get it to show, even on an untweaked default style is the forum index page page

EddyMaxx 09-09-2011 11:33 PM

Works on every page except the forumhome. Not sure why?

My members like it. I'm just trying to figure out why its not displaying on the home page. Even for a default theme. Maybe a plugin interfering?

EddyMaxx 09-09-2011 11:58 PM

If a member goes to the home page via http://domain.com/index.php then it shows up on the forum home.

But if they go to http://domain.com it doesn't display anything.

It works on all other pages with no issues.

Any ideas? It happens with both standard theme and custom theme.

Lee G 09-10-2011 07:50 AM

Exactly the same problem. I wish I had been able to explain it like that :o

Im sure the cause is vbseo and the way it rewrites the home page
Which would mean there are a lot of others that could suffer the same problem

EddyMaxx 09-10-2011 02:15 PM

^^ I don't have VBSEO and its not working on the homepage either.

It looks like their code looks for a specific page to place the javacript in. Since we don't have our files in a "/forums" directory its not picking it up because we have it at the root and index.php is not displayed.

There has to be a way to do it.

BirdOPrey5 09-10-2011 02:52 PM

I don't see any reason it would work with index.php but not without... Also on my test forum it works fine either way.

Lee G 09-10-2011 03:10 PM

Mines the same, as soon as you put a file name in it works
And it works with all mods, radio and tv player, classifieds etc etc
Forum home without any extension, ie index.php and it wont show

BirdOPrey5 09-10-2011 03:56 PM

Although not a solution, a work-around would be to find an .htaccess command to forward anyone from / to /index.php.

EddyMaxx 09-10-2011 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 (Post 2244291)
Although not a solution, a work-around would be to find an .htaccess command to forward anyone from / to /index.php.

Yeah, I figured that would be a workaround to just create a re-write rule in the .htaccess file.

Going to look at it a little further.

On your test site do you have all the files at the root level or inside a "/forums" directory?

BirdOPrey5 09-10-2011 08:13 PM

everything is under a directory, but it's not /forums/.

EddyMaxx 09-10-2011 08:48 PM

Got ya. This is weird. lol

EddyMaxx 09-10-2011 10:51 PM

Well here is the work around. Just create a .htaccess file (if you don't have one already) and just add the following line.

PHP Code:

RedirectMatch ^/$ /index.php 

That will take care of it and it will show on the forum home page.

sailnet 10-01-2011 10:26 AM

we have a paid envolve account but I'm about ready to remove it due to a disturbing trend that been occurring on out site. People are showing up and annoying the women on our website. creeps are creating accounts who are not posting anything but finding the women members of our site and then sending them annoying and offensive messages in the chat area.

I would like to restrict chat to people who only have a certain minimum number of posts but there is no way to do that in the envolve intergration.

groups in vbulletin cannot be assigned by number of posts and you can only restrict chat access by group not by rank (which can be based on # of posts).

VHLinks 01-29-2012 06:28 PM

The chat works good, but doesn't recognize additional usergroups to give them access to the chat. The only way it works is if you change their primary usergroup to something new for the chat only and that just seems silly. It needs to recognize the additional usergroups for the chat.

bada_bing 01-30-2012 03:09 AM

OK so I have installed this on our site but I cant seem to get the usergroup setting. For example I want to setup a chat room for my staff only to view and use for discussion, I also want to add additional chat rooms but this does not seem to work.

For example I want to create a chat room called moms only I do this
Chat Name: moms only
Group: Registered Users

but this group however doesn't even show up

As to creating a staff only group for usergroups administrator, moderator and supermod, how do I do that if I want to call the chat room Staff Chat ?

bada_bing 01-30-2012 03:21 AM

I have disabled this plugin until some of the details are worked out.

Another question, can members control who they see or can be seen by. For example the facebook only shows your friends that are online, what are some of the privacy settings of this mod? If no privacy settings are included this will be a deal killer for most people that want to respect the privacy of their members

RFViet 01-24-2013 03:04 AM

After signing up a free account with API key and importing the plug-in product. I still don't see the chat box or chat room yet :D

Goomzee 01-28-2013 10:33 AM

i installed this and works fine but i don't understand why i can't chat with my forums members

sailnet 05-14-2013 11:44 AM

has anyone else besides myself and these guys had to recently turn off envolve because their .js file is generating alert warning from Norton/Symantec?

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?p=245913636

???

BirdOPrey5 09-16-2014 12:00 PM

Envolve is shutting down.
Quote:

I'm writing to inform you that the Envolve chat service will be shutting down on September 30th. Read on for details and what replacements for Envolve are available.

We’ve chosen to sunset Envolve in order to focus entirely on Firebase, our developer platform. Over the last 3 years, Firebase has grown tremendously and is now the focus of our engineering team and business. As a result, we haven't been able to give enough attention and maintainance to Envolve.

After some careful deliberation, we reached the conclusion that our Envolve customers will be better served by switching to another chat service. This was a difficult decision for us, but we believe it is the best outcome for everyone. Other chat services are now more full-featured, are better maintained, and have support on more platforms.

Therefore, on September 30th, 2014, all Envolve services will be discontinued. The chat widget will no longer load, and you will no longer be able to log in to the Envolve.com website. To ensure your continued privacy, we will be deleting all account information and chat histories at this time as well.
If you've been happy with Envolve and want to continue with a drop-in chat solution for your site, we recommend switching to ChatCat (Live Demo). ChatCat is a new service designed to replace Envolve. It's currently in beta and you can sign up immediately on the ChatCat website. Email support@chatcat.io for detailed instructions on how to get started. The beta will be opening to the public on September 22nd.
We think you'll find ChatCat a great replacement that provides the same easy installation and a similar interface to Envolve. Note that ChatCat is operated independently and is not affiliated with our company.

If you’re a software engineer and would prefer a fully custom chat solution, we recommend trying FireChat, our Firebase-powered open-source chat module, or using Firebase directly to build your own chat solution.

If you're a paying customer, you should have already received another email from us at the end of August notifying you that your subscription was canceled and your credit card would not be charged again.

Thank you for being a loyal user! We sincerely appreciate your support and feedback over the last 4 years. We want to make this transition as smooth as possible, so please email us at support@envolve.com if you have any questions.

Happy chatting,

Andrew, James and the Envolve Team


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