Oh yea definately... I cannot stand the new style and themeing. I was so excited to install VB4 and when I finished all I saw was a bunch of CSS changes... I was like, ok wheres the new features? Of course there is some very small additions that make it run nicer... but VB ditch this new theme and go back to the old... Or at least have the old style come default with the final release or even the next beta or RC...

I am deeply disgusted with how this product turned out... I am guessing it is because of how you guys lost developers... Well you guys can still fix your mistakes... LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.

If we wanted an IPBoard or a SMF or PHPBB, do you really think we'd pay the extra amount for a VB.

I like it, too many bugs though. Set up a test forum already found a few.

Bugs on the beta is normal. As far as the style goes. I do not want the old way as I would be SOL on skinning. The new way is much easier on the new people.

I love the style of vb4 and how easy it is to customize a skin now. There are a few things I think that need changing as far as stylevars go (still some missing) and I've had to do a lot of template editing to get my forum style the way I want, but I know it's still in beta so hopefully those things will change.

thinking that styling took a turn for the worse with vb4,,
vb3 was soo smooth and extremely easy to costumize, ewen
change the complete layout of the forum..

im finding it wery complicated in vb4 trying to make a Xmax theme atm,
and have alot of issues with it, howewer im sure its beta issues so ill just
work around and keep my mouth shut until they go gold.

but still general appearence and user end, vb4 is the best.
admin end its more grrrrr than ahhh..

The new stylevars is a welcome upgrade and one of the best new features. They have a few details to hash out in there but making color changes with the overlayed images is very simple and looks clean. Kudos to them.

Sorry, but the examples I've seen so far look primitive. Maybe the background function is better, but it is definitely not an improvement to the eyes. I saw one so far that looked really put together, but that's about it.

The login in the upper right looks annoying and out of place.

I think I will stick with 3.8 for a bit. I'm sure 4.0 will get there, but not wanting to be without everything I've already worked on.

I love it. Check mine out. Still need to work on a background fnx.

Wait until stable releases and half your mods don't update. Then let us know how much you like it. :D