Very true, I can agree with that. The character of Bush is obvious. Obama has a bit to prove, for sure. But I ain't worried. You don't need to worry either. ;)

while u are debating it - remember it was America who started this war and now they going to back out and leave a civil war to escalate in Iraq.

Seems you good at starting wars but not cleaning up the mess afterwards.
Also if the troops are coming home in 2 months that is not down to obama - it just means it was on the cards anyway so get out of your fairy world that u living in and get in the real world.

You are so wrong, it's pathetic.

First off, this 2 month deadline has absolutely nothing to do with draw down initiated by Bush or Obama, it's an Iraqi demand. Read a newspaper.

While I agree, starting may not have been justified, we are not running away and leaving a mess. The money for infrastructure has been sent and misused by the Iraqi's.

If you want to jump in and name call, you should at least know the facts.

im not name calling - i dont have time to read newspapers and it was one of the threads above that said the world was changing in 72 hrs all thanks to Obama and i asked why and then the reply was that troops where coming home in 72 hrs.(so re-read thread)

I've heard quite enough generalizations from you based on your views on america as a whole. If you are going to be biass and stereotypical, feel free to let me know where you're from and I bet i'll have a load of nice comments for you to surround yourself with ;)

In the real world, as countless of others have said.. You have a country who was no longer happy with their elected president or the results that came about after our last president was elected. Numbers don't lie, people lie.. and the numbers show that we do want change. Being that Obama represents just that, of course America is thrilled. Most of the people I know now have the opportunity (some for the first time) to say "I'm proud of who our country's president is".

No one expects an overnight change, I agree that people who do need to get out of their fantasy. But there's no doubt that people are expecting and desiring change in general, for the better of course. With the right backup by congress, actions from us as Americans (we all need to play our role), and our newly elected president, we can now reestablish the hope and motivation our country needs and deserves.

and what happen when ppl put all their hopes in a single person?

They have hope? There's nothing wrong with having hope...

well I prefer the hard work, pursue of my own goals and share my success with my love ones, instead of waiting for someone to fix my problems :D

p.s. and Dang! I have big problems ;)

Once again, it's not one person. We have three branches of Federal Government for checks and balances.

Didn't they teach that in your school?

In this election the people put many new Congressmen and Senators in place, not just one person as President, to initiate this change.

on the spirit of change, let's change the subject!

p.s. btw I consider myself Democrat and Catholic, not saying that I am, but I 'consider' :D

And you're a good sport too while talking.

im from the Uk (Great Britain except theres nothing great about it) - you know the country that sucks up to america.I dont really care about who is in power in the USA but its not even a week after elections and u lot are like `we changed the world` `Im proud of the president we have` - lets see the changes take effect then start telling us how proud you are.

Anyway fire away cause theres a difference here - i dont really give a damn about the UK - this country went to the dogs a long time ago.

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p.s.The one on the guitar is Hendrix ;)

Usually religion, from my observations.

Rapscallion

They also talked about several other issues, so it sounds to me as though you were selectively listening. I don't want to turn this into a flamefest but as someone who's actually been to Iraq and Afghanistan supporting my military, and as someone who's line of work is to keep the troops alive, I don't appreciate the spin you're putting on things by picking out select tidbits to support your posts.

With all due respect, if you really feel this way then you should take the time to do some homework on the matters at hand, because if you tried to make this point around me, or 99% of the people I associate with, you'd get verbally slapped around because you really don't seem to know what you're talking about.

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I do agree with you here, though. ;)

Relax boy!
Ok, let me add: Berlusconi, Chavez, Kibaki... not me ;)

I'm glad the voting is over.

Actually, you'd be mistaken there. Obama gave a rather significant speech about race mid-way through the primary called "A More Perfect Union".

I'd also have to disagree with you that there's something wrong with black folks being proud to have one of their own in the White House, especially when he's a qualified person to be proud of. There's nothing pathetic about that.

I understand why some people say they don't see color. What they mean is race doesn't matter to them. But I think we should come up with a better expression. Because I do see color. You can't celebrate diversity, if you can't see what makes us different. You can't change what's wrong with race relations if you don't acknowledge where the problems are coming from. This was too important a step forward for race relations the world over for us to diminish it as if people where just giving in their own worst instincts. The opposite is actually true.

See? for some reason nobody can avoid the issue; so here my speech:

I AM NOT RACIST

" I'm not racist although some parts of my body are black and some parts are white, and God knows I never want to see them together! " :D:D:D

I don't think I suggested you were. However thanks for thw (too much) information. :eek: