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Hi,

I updated to 3.7.1, but in the admincp, it remains as 3.7.0. Is this normal?

It did that on me, I just left it a few minutes, refreshed and it updated the version number.

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Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1534296)

It did that on me, I just left it a few minutes, refreshed and it updated the version number.

NEvermind. My FTP broke the connection and the files never uploaded. :p I'm going to do it now.

This upgrade screwed with my custom skins royally. Even after reverting affected templates, it totally ruined the whole forum. LOL.

Luckilly I had a backup.

Looks like I will be staying with 3.7.0 for a while. Come on vBulletin-- make upgrades easier already would you??

If you're using a custom skin, then reverting the templates, obviously it is going to mess your skin up. This is because it is reverting to the default vBulletin code, and your style maybe coded slightly different. You will need to compare, then do the updates yourself. Sorry.

I don't mean to be a suck up or anything, but I agree with both sides of view.

I mean, I love the updates, and it will surely help out and will benefits tons of users.

At the same time, i'm with jase2, I may not have a "custom" skin, but every two months is a pain in the rear end, I mean, I love to my forum to the latest version, just makes me feel safer, happier, and please.

Again, love the updates keep them coming, but perhaps these updates should only come when a security thread has occurred. This will eliminate any chances of vb.com updates creating a security breach. This way whenever an update is available it's meant to fix the security problem + add extra features.

I know the paragraph above is hard to understand, but some might get it.

I only had to revert FORUMHOME!

It totally screwed with mine. Also, ibproarcade stopped working as well.

3.7.0 will have to do for now.

I agree with Jase2 too. I understand that updates are important, but update the whole files and templates by overwriting them is a real pain in the ***. A patch would be great and much less painful. Not disagreeing with the necessity of updating, but you would be very costumer-friendly if you could update by patch. Somehow! For now i'll stick with 3.7.0 too. Just had too much hard work from updating 3.6.8 to 3.7.0!

I will upgrade when they release 3.7.5 next month.

The bi-monthly upgrade release schedule is in direct response to alot of people asking for a tentative schedule at vb.com, so they can plan accordingly. It was asked for. The people who don't need it or want it of course are going to gripe about it.

I'm betting that if the devs don't feel that an upgrade is warranted, there won't be one. It's just a guideline. If people plan for one, and it isn't needed, there's a pleasant surprise.

Ohiosweetheart, it was asked by the 'regulars' on vbulletin.com. There are plenty of people and big companies who run a vBulletin forum and haven't participated on the vB forums -- so how is it asked for by the majority? Just the regulars on vB.com. I just think that it's the small minority who are very loud. The majority don't visit the vB forums, let alone vote for new features ect.

Baldilocks, I explained why it messed your style up in post #45. :)

No one forces you to upgrade every time - its your choice - so whats the issue ?

Like I say, it's an opinion LOL.

All I'm saying is if patches for the fixes were given too, that way, anyone running custom skins, which is a large majority, can upgrade with ease. I know there's no pleasing everyone, that's why you should see both sides of the story....

Lets just move on.......... huh?

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All I'm saying is if patches for the fixes were given too, that way, anyone running custom skins, which is a large majority, can upgrade with ease.

What kind of "patches" are you talking about?

Bug fixes or security updates. Also this wouldn't make any difference regarding styles: Either an update does require (mandatory) template changes or not. How it is distributed (patch/2-monthly update/security release) does not change if a template must be updated or not.

Hi support team,

After last night upgrade I face some problems with some custom functions which work with 3.7.0 and dont with 3.7.1

See details

I have defined function -> xbt_postbit_attachment
in file xbt_functions.php

Code:

    function xbt_postbit_attachment(&$attachment)

    {

        global $stylevar, $vbulletin, $xbt_config;

        if (isset($attachment['bt_size']))

            $attachment['bt_size'] = xbt_b2a($attachment['bt_size']);

        $attachment['download_target'] = $xbt_config['attachment_download_banner'] ? 'target=_blank' : '';

        $attachment['bt_sub_files_rows'] = '';

        $sub_files = $vbulletin->db->query_read(sprintf("select hash, name, size from xbt_sub_files where info_hash = '%s' order by name", addslashes($attachment['bt_info_hash'])));

        while ($sub_file = $vbulletin->db->fetch_array($sub_files))

        {

            $hash = bin2hex($sub_file['hash']);

            $name = htmlspecialchars($sub_file['name']);

            $size = xbt_b2a($sub_file['size']);

            eval('$attachment[\'bt_sub_files_rows\'] .= "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_sub_files_row') . '";');

        }

        if ($attachment['bt_sub_files_rows'])

            eval('$attachment[\'bt_sub_files\'] = "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_sub_files') . '";');

        $attachment['bt_users_rows'] = '';

        $users = $vbulletin->db->query_read(sprintf("select xfu.*, u.username name from xbt_files inner join xbt_files_users xfu using (fid) left join %suser u on uid = userid where info_hash = '%s' and (xfu.completed or xfu.downloaded or xfu.uploaded) order by name", TABLE_PREFIX, addslashes($attachment['bt_info_hash'])));

        while ($user = $vbulletin->db->fetch_array($users))

        {

            $uid = $user['uid'];

            $name = htmlspecialchars($user['name']);

            $announced = $user['announced'];

            $completed = $user['completed'];

            $downloaded = xbt_b2a($user['downloaded']);

            $left = xbt_b2a($user['left']);

            $uploaded = xbt_b2a($user['uploaded']);

            $last_announce = gmdate('Y-m-d H:s', $user['mtime']);

            eval('$attachment[\'bt_users_rows\'] .= "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_users_row') . '";');

        }

        if ($attachment['bt_users_rows'])

            eval('$attachment[\'bt_users\'] = "' . fetch_template('postbit_attachment_users') . '";');

    }

I call this function via plugin and hook -> postbit_attachment

Code:

require_once(DIR . '/includes/xbt_functions.php');

xbt_postbit_attachment($attachment);

But not works anymore (not shows result in postbit)

Maybe some hooks or classes are changed?

Advise please!

thx

Please create your own thread in the relevant forum. This is for discussions only. Thanks!

Argh, I've just got all my templates back to normal after upgrading to 3.7.0. Don't tell me I'll have to do all that shit again...

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Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1534925)

Jase I just re-read my post, and invite you to do the same. Nowhere in my post did I say that the schedule was asked for my any majority. I said "alot of people". And if you read the posts over there, you'll find 'em. Many of them are business people who want, and appreciate, a schedule so that they can plan accordingly. :) Also you should be aware, if you aren't already, that the vB staff does get requests and suggestions at other than the vb.com forums.

And how do you know that many are business people who are requesting this?

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Also you should be aware, if you aren't already, that the vB staff does get requests and suggestions at other than the vb.com forums.

I know that, what do you think this is for: http://www.vbulletin.com/testimonial_form.php -- :), but you or me, or anyone else for that matter will not know how many people use it, exception being the vB staff.

At the end of the day, I've said my opinion, and after some thought, I'm split about the decision. Lets just leave it as it is, for now. :)

How do I know? I read the posts :)

As I said hun, if you read them, many of the requests are by business people, or "big board" admins who have requested an upgrade schedule, and are very glad that they can now plan for them.

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Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart (Post 1535666)

Many of them are business people who want, and appreciate, a schedule so that they can plan accordingly.

<Giggle...> Asking for a schedule in software is silly.</Giggle...> How many years did Vista take? All that money and all that time and look what MS put out....

Goodness - I can hardly believe all the 'beefs' about a schedule and template mods in this thread.

My suggestion - Relax and plan as best you can, and always wait at least 2 weeks after the 'gold' release to upgrade (more for more major software releases, like 8 to 10 weeks). If you have a good, solid site/forum, your visitors won't notice a 2 to 4 week wait in regard to a vB software update (Realistically, how many of your forum visitors are bugging you about when you're going to install 'The Latest' vBulletin update {unless you've been promising things you don't KNOW you can produce}?). If one is so anxious to update, I suspect vanity or hyperactivity is involved (if not simply personal impatience). Heck, even this site - vBulletin.org - doesn't update their forum software the minute or day that vB releases an update.... from what I see, this site is still on Version 3.6.10. Now - What does THAT tell us???? Hmmmmm.....? Personally I don't CARE when this site upgrades. It works. It works well. I'm a happy camper just as it is.

I've read all the template complaints and such with respect to 'special styles' and what not. I have quite a few templates modded. I have a list in an excel file. It also has about 8 significant php and xml files which I have to change when the main files change. The vB people have gone out of their way to list templates which are changed (not to mention changed Phrases...), including the admin panel checks. I have my list and I'm ready for major changes. I'm a Mac person so I use BBEdit and 'Compare Files'. Quick and easy. I do have a couple of PCs here, but don't do much real work on them. I'm sure there's a PC text editor which does the same, but I'll leave PC recommendations to PC people.

I am a 'business person'. I'm a semi-retired consultant who keeps a forum online which is a quite profitable addition to my retirement. In fact, my whole forum depends upon 'business' people. I'm not a programmer, although I do count looking back to taking PL1, FORTRAN and Cobol back in 1974-6. Over 30 years ago I was taught 'patience'. And if your site/forum is really important to you, the 'work' involved shouldn't be a significant issue. An 'irritant' I'll grant you, but.... Not 'work'.

My Opinion: For anyone whose site is important to them:

Keep track of the changes you KNOW you'll need to make.
Keep track of the 'mods' (aka addons, etc.) you have installed and any related template or other changes. vB 3.7.1 broke several 'mods' and people got mad. If they had waited 48 hours to see the 'fallout', they would have known what to expect. I haven't upgraded because I saw immediate reactions (people complaining about installed 'mods' failing).
Plan as best you can. Have something written out.
Don't rush the programmers. You'll only induce mistakes and problems.
If waiting a few weeks (or even a couple of months) to upgrade is a problem, you're making things worse for yourself. vB 3.7.1 just came out. I've seen the crying from people who whose mods broke and such - It's obvious none of them tried everything out on a test platform board. I have no sympathy for them.

In part, I 'make a living' off of my major site. I'm definitely a 'business person'. In fact, I'm a 'business person' who is in a business totally unrelated to software. In fact, my 'business' is charging companies to tell them how to 'do' business.

I know that software upgrades require a plan on the part of the 'business person' (or whoever is 'minding the site') more than a plan is required from the software vendor. Believing what any software supplier says is suicide... As a business person my #1 thought is what is my plan if this company goes out of business (or an installed mod I 'need' is not updated, among many other things).

If you are a business person, you plan your 'user experience' with 'catastrophe' planned for (especially if you don't have a test platform to check everything out on).

I am a VERY happy vB user since August 2001 and I have absolutely NO complaints about the vB team and their many upgrades during the last 7 years.

I haven't upgraded to 3.7.1 and don't plan to for a while. It has nothing to do with security. I can wait a few weeks to see what shakes out of the 3.7.1 update.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart (Post 1535720)

As I said hun, if you read them, many of the requests are by business people, or "big board" admins who have requested an upgrade schedule, and are very glad that they can now plan for them.

No, they can't expect a firm, guaranteed 'update schedule' or plan. 'Things' happen..... If you believe that you're wishing upon a star.... If you're telling clients that, ummm.... Well.... I sure wouldn't.

Quote:

If waiting a few weeks (or even a couple of months) to upgrade is a problem, you're making things worse for yourself. vB 3.7.1 just came out. I've seen the crying from people who whose mods broke and such - It's obvious none of them tried everything out on a test platform board. I have no sympathy for them.

While I partially agree with waiting, how can you have no sympathy for them? If vBulletin release it, then they know many of their customers are going to upgrade their forums -- because it is released as stable. To me, this scheduled maintenance will just cause problems within vBulletin its self, like the two small hiccups after the 3.7.1 release.

Even with the hiccups we somehow manage to survive and the world didn't end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 1535753)

Oh goodness no, lol. Why would anyone tell a client that? Personally, I don't believe that a schedule is needed. I'm very happy to upgrade whenever one comes along. The devs do a great job of trying to keep our forums secure and up-to-date. I merely pointed out that a schedule now exists because it was requested. That's all.

Thanks for the new version

Real great timing [/sarcasm] since I was on holiday when it was released, but I have now upgraded my site to vBulletin 3.7.1

Hmmm... Why does it not work when people are logging in? People who use old cookies have no problem. But even when I try to log in to my admin cp I can't log in...

forget it, I uploaded the login.php and everything is fine. I also had to re-upload the memberlist.php for some reason...

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