It isnt that bad

What's this owned license renewal? Sorry i'm still new to a lot of the vb stuff.

Owned licenses give you a free year of updates. After that year (starting June 2), you must renew. The prices will be:
Within 60 days of the expiration: $40
Over 60 days: $60

This will provide you updates for a year as soon as payment is received.

i also see it as a penalty

Don't see why people are complaining really. You get to use the best and most intuitive forum system available on the market for what amounts to less then ten bucks a month. Consider the prices of other "premium" php applications and you will start to see what I mean. That's not even mentioning vB's excellent record of competent security updates and support.

I have tinkered with virtually every open source and retail php solution out there during the last ten years and whether it was a cms or forum script vBulletin still is and always has been heads and shoulders above the competition. To be honest they could double the price and I would still use and recommend the software above anything else.

Hooah! Well put! I personally don't think I would pay double xD but follow you with the rest

I dont care what Jelsoft charges, as long as they keep ahead of competing software in terms of features. The price is well worth it IMO.

Another thing to increase piracy, then say due of piracy prices should be increased which again increases piracy - that's just usual.
And reporting sites - do you really believe this would change something ? A DB and some files are faster moved and opened somewhere else a support mail is being replied.

But well - it's still ok though like above - recommending someone to pay the double price doesn't mean someone would follow this recommendation.
Open Source products get better and better over years - let's see

I am really sad for the price changing too
but...Vbulletin is simply the best, it's not all in the price, look how is code vbulletin, then how is code board like phpbb and others..
Look the support on the other boards, and look the support on vbulletin.
Look the modifications for vbulletin - then look the modifications for the other boards
Look in the admincp/ and the other features in vbulletin and then look in the other boards
Look the product manager

The most important... if you have vbulletin is like to drive ferrari, if you have other kind of forum is like to drive Zastava..

Well worth the money I think.

As for gas being $4 a gallon, you should try living in the UK where it's an estimated $10 a gallon :P

Glad I got a owned license, and dont be late and you wont get hit with $20. I think honestly it is still a good deal

My opinion on the matter is that the price increase is fair. At the end of the day Vbulletin are a business and need to make money. Labour costs for updating the software have increased in the past 8 years so they need to keep the charges in-line with this. vBuletin is updated frequently and the support is good. I'm not complaining.

I would pay double for vBulletin any day. Just look how powerful it is. In my opinion, it should be more.

vBSEO is $150 -- and that is nothing to vBulletin its self.

amen

and amen :)

vbulletin has never complimented my site so well since 3.7 and I don't see a problem with the vbulletin license charges or the "penalty" late payment system that some people are complaining about.

I have been given 100% service so the increase is not a problem for me

The first price increase in a long time. It seems reasonable, even at 20%.

I bought the blog product, so these changes actually save me money (I think).

The new pricing structure is very reasonable. Can't afford it? Ask your users to donate a buck or two.

You can look at it that way, as you bought it for 50 instead of 60 and you now don't have a renewal fee.

Price hike is alright. I agree with most people about the extra renewal charge after 60 days. It's total bull shit by the vB marketing/finance department.

It's almost as if they want to PRESSURE customers to renew. In the end, what's the point? Yeah you renew early and there is no real point. You see a patch update here and there. That's pretty much it. vB 4.0 isn't going to be out for awhile now.

So in the end, the members just have fork out extra money even if they don't use the renewal access.

The increased license-costs are ok IMHO - at least when you earn money with your site.

After all one thing I learned (everyone must make his own experience, but this is how I see
it): When you use professional (and vB IS professional - be it security or functionality,
hands down) application and the support from time to time, it saves money, especially
compared to open source solutions. I have a one-time license fee and thats it. And I have
the right to complain, wake up vB-staff to help me etc ;)

When you have open source solution, you can have luck and have nice and responsible
persons at your site - but it is a matter of trust, a matter of luck and - most important -
a matter of motivation! I saw countless! applications, be it win32, unixoids or webbased
apps that leaved abandoned/orphaned behind and I was the lucky one who fixed that shit
because I was dumb enough to believe anyone would care about them.

Obviously this is not the case with e.g. phpBB - but to be honest, I NEVER wanna miss the
support and attitude to things of vB-staff and before I must shutdown vB and use some
other opensource/free software again at my productive sites - I tend to better lack some
cinema-visits, buy a cheaper whatever or smoke some cigarettes less (anyway good idea
to quit smoking ;))

I agree that its harder for hobby-admins, although I would use vB even for hobby-sites
before I switch back to phpBB (maybe because I never forget how many countless hours
I spend to fix/add/edit core-files) - everyone who reviewed phpBB code and compared it
to vB-sources must agree - or is blind (imho)

just my 2cent.

I still wonder why a UK company, releases and supports software in American English and sells it in US dollars.

Why wouldn't they? And they sell it in several other currencies as well.

8 years ago the vbulletin :

2000: 100 Licences
2001: 1000 Licences
2002: 4000 Licenses
.......
.......
.......
2008: 10.000 Licenses =$1.100.000 or more or less ?? :D

Members: 176,515 --Vbulletin.com
Members: 22.014 --vbulletin-germany
etc.... etc....

Ok some of them is a pirate person :( other dont renew but is 50/50?? --20/80 ???

Of course this values is not true but is an example of the Jelsoft making money because every user make publicity to vbulletin, and yes is good product but i think its a shame increase the prices wen i believe 2007/2008 is the best year sales to Jelsoft.

I like jelsoft products but i dont agree with this new prices :(:down:

SO can we remove the copyright?

If you purchase the Branding Free option.

Lol i agree on that, UK is getting stupid and we have to put back on everything because of the price. Its a little stupid I think.

But overall, people need more money to pay for all the money increased prices around the world, so it was going to happen sooner or later..:erm:

Will there be any notification on renewal...?

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hope i can follow. Tell me if theres any doc/link I should read or cover

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Please do not use this thread for support questions.

Money people earn, in eight years, has gone up. The guys at Jelsoft have had the same prices which I know probably doesn't mean their wages go up but it looks that way. In eight years, it's been the same price. To me, this means either it was well over-priced to start with OR it is now to cheap.

I will continue to pay my Renewal Fee for my Owned Licence, because I know I will get a great service, and the ability to use my forum wherever I want. If one of my sites goes down the pan I still have my vB to put somewhere else.

Price increase, yeah we're all gonna say it's a bad thing because who wants to fork out money for anything... but it's life. You look at the price, and then look at the features, and then make a decision. Period!

Considering the only benefit from this up in price is if you purchase owned license, I don't see many people going leased. Now that I work at a job that doesn't give anything for a pay increase, I can't afford to continue with vBulletin products even though I love them to death. All I can say is I will not be renewing any of my licenses. I am releasing my last mod as a vB addon, from there depending on sales, will really determine if I will continue with vBulletin and upgrade to at least an owned license.

Thanks for the great products and only time will tell how many people will stick with vbulletin after this increase in prices.

Cheers

Well I guess eveything is going up, lol

Hello

The price for the license is acceptable
but for the renewal NO
It should be +15% such as the license NOT +100%
:(

I was want renew but Now I will not at this price

You could always just wait until a few years when you have enough money and vBulletin 4 is also out.

I'm a hobby admin and for the very reasons mentioned above, I wouldn't go back to open source for quids. Knowing our site will still be there the next day and not having to spend countless hours repairing generic code errors makes admin a pleasure. :up:

Yup . But they should stop nulled vb