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nexialys 02-15-2008 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by idbuchanan (Post 1443665)
Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important in this case... RC's should NOT be the serious bug finding stage!!! Betas are the serious bug finding stages. A "Release Candidate" does exactly what it says on the tin, it's a candidate for release and is a final safeguard to spot any final bugs.
actually, even if you do not agree with the terms and definitions, you can't do a thing about it... it is general usage in the code development and in the industry that Beta is for fixing development and RC is for bugs roundup... you would have to argue with the base of the internet to make it change...

>>> Software Release life Cycle, by Wikipedia

Boofo 02-15-2008 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by idbuchanan (Post 1443665)
Sorry to be pedantic but I think it's important in this case... RC's should NOT be the serious bug finding stage!!! Betas are the serious bug finding stages. A "Release Candidate" does exactly what it says on the tin, it's a candidate for release and is a final safeguard to spot any final bugs.

In an ideal world all bugs are fixed after the last beta, and then a RC is released without bugs - that RC then goes Gold/RTM and Bob's your cousin's father. Of course in many cases there'll rightly be several RCs just to ensure that all bugs are indeed caught - but when a RC is released with no bugs (or just a couple of minor ones that can be fixed without having an impact elsewhere), then the code is ready to go Gold/RTM.

I know - I need a slap for being so pedantic, but it's happening more and more where RCs are treated like Betas, and final software is treated like RCs, and I think it's healthy just to stop and think about each part of the design/release cycle of software - to set expectations correctly and to back up programmers/coders when users/owners are expecting too much.

Oh, and happily been using 3.7b3 since its release without any issues - will be upgrading to 3.7b5 this weekend!
To clarify things, by saying serious bug finding stage I meant the RCs concentrate on finding the final bugs and that is their main propose, not adding or changing a lot of things anymore.

And the part about me being your cousin's father, I have apologized for that over and over and sent all the support payments. What else do you want? ;)

Tefra 02-15-2008 04:35 PM
i just finished the upgrade, the vb upgrade took me about 10minutes, with prepared the changed templates on my localhost, 5 more minutes to write a simple permission plugin for the thread prefixes, after that 2 more hours to switch my site news system from the forum category, to the thread prefix system. 2K Threads moves, thx god it's over.

habbworpe 02-15-2008 05:32 PM
Im probibly going to install it Beta 6
So its all good.

abroad 02-17-2008 08:40 PM
where is this "view conversation" link? Cant see anything at my visitor messages after the installation...do I have to activate something?

i156 02-19-2008 12:31 AM
I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.

Brandon Sheley 02-19-2008 01:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by i156 (Post 1446320)
I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.
you can make a backup of your site and set that up in a test sub-folder, change the db name and everything.

Marco van Herwaarden 02-19-2008 06:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by i156 (Post 1446320)
I am running version 3.6.8. Is there any way to install this in a different directory but use the same database to make sure it works first? I'm assuming no but wanted to ask.
No you can not use the same database (unless you install twice with different table prefix). Installing 3.7 using your production database would upgrade all tables to their 3.7 version, leaving your 3.6.8 installation useless.

m002.p 02-19-2008 07:34 PM
seems like the BETA's are running to 1000 :p

Would be good to have a stable full release soon rather than all these BETA's :D

I do understand that they are needed in order to release such a version, but 5??? we are having more? LOL Surely this could be compacted a little but nevermind, keep up the good work vb team!

nexialys 02-19-2008 08:20 PM
hum, actually, as this site is dedicated to development and coding, it is the worst place for the regular public to look at when they are stressed about releases...

if you do not like betas and alphas, do not visit this site... you'll be disapointed all day long

m002.p 02-20-2008 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1446855)
hum, actually, as this site is dedicated to development and coding, it is the worst place for the regular public to look at when they are stressed about releases...

if you do not like betas and alphas, do not visit this site... you'll be disapointed all day long
I didnt say I do not like betas or alphas for that matter ;) Plus im no regular public person nor stressed out about releases. Im happy with 3.6.8 actually LOL

I was merely saying that it feels as though we are having so many BETA versions for 3.7. For software I release for my business, I have a max of 3 bug permitting. Ive found developing more BETA versions often wastes more valuable time in releasing or getting closer to the actual full version. Sometimes its better to compact the amount but perfect each BETA before release of another.

Terrie 02-24-2008 08:48 PM
I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.

StonePilot 02-27-2008 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrie (Post 1450254)
I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.

This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.

nexialys 02-27-2008 08:10 PM
there is no link between a album in 3.7 and photopost... the album in vBulletin is a personal list of pictures, not a album made public with a load of features...

beishe8 02-29-2008 12:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StonePilot (Post 1452037)
This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.
Don't even think to replace photo post-gallery hacks with 3.7's album(s).
It has to be improved significantly.

cajunboy2208 02-29-2008 01:04 AM
I really like the new 3.7 features.
My mods are especially loving the delete posts as spam.

ThePimp 02-29-2008 06:33 PM
Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?

carubmun 02-29-2008 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1443175)
2008. :)
Thats what Axl Rose said :D

ZeroHour 02-29-2008 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePimp (Post 1453865)
Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?
I wouldnt test it if my forums were this big either. Imaging if vBorg went down due to a 3.7 but for a while :eek:

Shazz 02-29-2008 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePimp (Post 1453865)
Why is vBorg still running 3.6.8?
They wouldn't want to upgrade on every beta or RC version :)

Ohiosweetheart 03-02-2008 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrie (Post 1450254)
I am running 3.6.8 with the latest version of photopost.
In looking at the new features of 3.7 with it's built in
photo gallery and customizable profile pages would it be
wise for me to phase out my photopost? I like photopost
but it's looking as though i may not need it after upgrade.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StonePilot (Post 1452037)
This is my question as well. I had an unsucceessful implementation of PhotoPost on one of my sites and I am interested to learn more about the photo album features in 3.7.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beishe8 (Post 1453295)
Don't even think to replace photo post-gallery hacks with 3.7's album(s).
It has to be improved significantly.
the 3.7 profile album is just that - an album - not a gallery, and was not created to, nor was it ever meant to, replace any gallery add-on for vB. These are personal picture albums and will very likely not be given many more features. So if you're running photopost or vBPicgallery or any other gallery add-on and don't want to be without their features, keep 'em. ;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 1443116)
Hopefully this will be the last beta and we can move on to the RCs. As far as my small site goes, it has been stable for me since beta 3. I upgraded to beta 4 the day after I installed beta 3, actually.
I've been running TalkOhio on 3.7 since beta3, and just upgraded my designs site to beta5. No problems at all for me.

I understand that there will be a beta 6. Hopefully, it'll be out this coming week.

Terrie 03-03-2008 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart (Post 1454832)
the 3.7 profile album is just that - an album - not a gallery, and was not created to, nor was it ever meant to, replace any gallery add-on for vB. These are personal picture albums and will very likely not be given many more features. So if you're running photopost or vBPicgallery or any other gallery add-on and don't want to be without their features, keep 'em. ;)

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I've been running TalkOhio on 3.7 since beta3, and just upgraded my designs site to beta5. No problems at all for me.

I understand that there will be a beta 6. Hopefully, it'll be out this coming week.

Thank you so much for the information. I will definitely be keeping my photo post.

howard30 03-03-2008 06:50 PM
I dont like the way it says befriend [username]

Ohiosweetheart 03-04-2008 10:40 AM
I didn't like it either, but can't think of another word I like better :rolleyes:

sully02 03-06-2008 03:01 PM
Looks like Beta 6 is up and running on vB.com, so I'm guessing it'll be available to the masses real soon.

Shazz 03-06-2008 04:28 PM
A RC1 would be no surprise

FOMSCU Forum 03-06-2008 04:36 PM
3.7.0 Beta 6 Released Guys

xixxon 03-06-2008 10:10 PM
yay cool...im waiting for beta 6 :D

cheat-master30 03-07-2008 08:33 AM
Since beta 6 is running at vBulletin.com, it probably won't be long now...

MrPHD 03-07-2008 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FOMSCU Forum (Post 1458609)
3.7.0 Beta 6 Released Guys
Hi, yes is running on vbulletin.com but not Released. best Regards

Now at this time, is Released.


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