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Feel free to ask again once you have obtained a new license.

I'm new but I have been very frustrated by people who won't help themselves for a something that's free. Its like saying..."here is a free bowl of candy, all you have to do is come get it"

and the reply being..."What?!!? you can't bring it to me?"

Its terrible.

I have said a bunch of times that people should just read the thread. I don't care how busy you are, take the time and it will answer most of your questions.

I see people all the time say something like..."does this work with 3.5.6? I don't have time to read the thread"

Its just lazy. I don't blame coders for not wanting to put up with it. Turns a gift into something that is a constant problem

Do you have any unanswered questions? Even experienced vBulletin users don't reply your questions, the vB.org staff is always spending their time to answer the questions or solving the problems.

We, the coders, have 'another' life. Not every time we can update our mods or produce something. Sometimes while I'm walking I think what can I do for vBulletin administrators to have it in their forums. But as many many things have been coded, not much things are produced. This is like questions. You cannot ask the answered questions. You may not know, this is so normal, but humans experience same things in their life. So think that and try to search the answer because it's in somewhere. It has to be.

If everything were free, there'd be no meaning of living for humans. To have something we pay what it is worth. This is not just money. Sometimes even we pay with our lives. If you feel pitty for paying for the mods you requested which you can found on other forum softwares' support sites, why have you paid for vBulletin as you can use a free software? This is a contradiction.

Pretty much. I personally haven't encountered anything like as high a percentage of ungrateful users as this thread makes it sound, but of course it happens. And equally the same bad attitude, while equally rare, is noticably not restricted to non-coders either.

Paul M said that 150 users join per day, how many of those are coders? A tiny percentage no doubt. vb.org is inevitably a victim of its own success. And it is a success. 150 new users daily is no small figure. The quality of some of the modifications/design on here is terrific even if (again, probably inevitably) some of the top class move on to greater things. I don't think there are fewer coders or fewer good modifications or anything like that. It's just that the demographics have shifted considerably.

Surely the real question is what can be done about it? Because if that is the cause - and there seems little disagreement that it is - then the trend will only continue in the same direction. Especially since as the userbase expands, modifications will receive even more posts and support requests and so on, polite or otherwise, and will become even more difficult to deal with.

Supporting uShop back a few years ago killed my soul.

That and a WoW addiction and I haven't released anything in a while.

It has to do with the new admins of the site. Believe me.

Sorry but I honestly believe the admins are doing a great job. Just look at the recent updates to the site. They were asked for and came pretty fast so they must be doing something right. I've stop releasing as much because of the attitude of some members towards free hacks. They think that they are the most important and you should jump when they say. Some of them don't realize that coders also have lives and can't update a hack or answer a question in 10 mins.

I have to admit, I haven't encountered any members shouting abuse or complaining about not receiving support fast enough, if they did, the ignore user button can be a useful function to turn too whilst keep support going for the community that do deserve it.

Meaning what exactly.

I am an idiot and I read it wrong - edit :P.

I'm pretty sure he is just blaming the staff.

Whether it's personal conflicts with them, or being offended by hack vulnerability procedures, they are taking it out on the wrong people.

I think it's plenty active. I don't even download many hacks, but I see a ton of them being posted regularly.

Honestly, I see this come up alot, the staffing proceedures and policys haven't ever changed much here.

If it makes anyone feel better dark and I have a number of mods/styles for vb.org in development we hope ot release soon for free, lol. But from reading the posts it is hard to support everyone with the free stuff, its been good learning exp though :D

Shame shame now mist, I once remember you being an active little mod here ;)

He thinks he can do better, that's all.

If anyone is willing to give it a shot I welcome them to try. It isn't fun, it can be stressful, and it'll eat away at your free time like no other "hobby".

It doesn't matter who is in charge of this place or any community. There will always be a few who blame the staff members for everything (be they current or past members of the staff). Often times these very same people contribute little to nothing to the community or do so simply to feed their ego.

This site is as active as ever, in fact it's more active than at any point in the past. What we lost is the "closeness" we used to have, which generally goes out the door when a community get as large as this one.

I'm not really sure what the OP is complaining about...hacks/mods/whatever you call them are released when they're "ready". If there is a drop-off in the number of new modifications posted it usually means the current version of the software is stable. As soon as a new version is released (say 4.0) which breaks all old modifications you'll see plenty getting posted...because the popular modifications are usually the first things to be "ported".

Most of the original ideas for modifications have already been done and were done in the vB 2.x "era". Think about it....when was the last time you saw an original idea for a modification? I can't think of many myself but then again I'm not as active as I used to be. These days all I see are improvements of old ideas (AJAX modifications and the like) or scripts for integration purposes.

But like I said we've become "stable" here. Nothing new and exciting is going on because there is nothing new and exciting to do. If someone is working on something new and exciting you'll find out about it when he/she is willing to release it and with time it will become boring and ordinary like everything that came before it...

I'll guess I'll end this post with the age old argument/advice; If you're unhappy with the number of modifications/styles/whatever begin posted here learn that particular skill and contribute. The "I'm not a coder/designer" argument doesn't cut it....either learn the skill or be happy with what is provided to you for free. If you aren't willing to learn and aren't willing to settle with what you're given for free then you'll be paying for "custom work". That's just the way things are...

*hugs Brad* :D

Nice speech :)

Chris

On a side note I say in order to bring the "closeness" back; that vBulletin should be downgraded back to 3.0.X so everything must be done by hand :-D....


Yea, I knew yall would love that ;).

HALP FATAL ERROR INIT.PHP!!!111

Oh god the memories.

I have been around for around 2 or 3 years now and I happen to think it's a pretty active place! I may be blind to the problems that some people speak of, but I truly do not see anything wrong.

The staff have been nothing but nice and professional, as far as I have seen.

Plenty of members are releasing very good modifications, and MOST are supported just fine (again, as far as I have seen).

You will always have a few bad apples, both authors of code who don't care that people have their mod installed and need help, and also members who are unappreciative, impatient little turds.

Overall though, I think this place is just as great as ever. Actually, I think it's BETTER than ever. The staff have put a lot of thought into what would make this site better, and they take steps to put those into action. I can remember being on here a couple years ago and we didn't have nearly the amount of organization or features. Not that it was anyone's fault but, naturally, sites will grow and improve, which is what I feel this site has done.

It's no easy task to run a site this large or to support some of the bigger hacks out there, but I think everyone is doing pretty good job at making things work pretty smoothly.

Big thanks and props to all of the staff who make this place run smoothly and to the coders out there who very selflessly take the time to not only create the hacks but to also support them.

I have not noticed lack of activity at all.

I'm not sure where to start in regards to the original reason this thread was opened. Hmmm... how about.... Are you kidding me? That's like walking into a free place for homeless people to sleep at and demanding that the volunteers who run it fix the place up. Get a grip on yourself.

I just now started posting here in the last couple weeks. My site launched in August '06 and I've had plenty to do there since then, so I'm just now getting some time to explore what else I can do with the vBulletin software. That being said, I'm quite frankly AMAZED at how many free hacks have been produced by the selfless servants of this site. You'll never know how much all of this stuff is appreciated by those of us who take what's given to us and do the best we can with it.

It might actually be a good idea to have a forum dedicated to php training. If anyone wanted to offer some basic training guides, I'd be more than happy to learn it and help out when I can.

As far as blaming the administration... again, Are you kidding me?? This site is obviously very well put together, and you yourself can't have a great site if you can even think about trying to blame administration. It takes alot of time and effort to maintain any communtiy... especially one this size. They're doing a wonderful job.

For those of us who came from the UBB days know what it is to do everything manually. No template system, just modifying CGI and PL files. There was no such thing as just simple edits. :)

There were templates in ubb 6.x. Before that point all html was hardcoded in with the application code.

Sure you couldn't edit them via the admincp but at least you didn't have to go off looking through a lot of perl code for bits of html.

I remember the old ubb days...:) The first "hack" I ever installed was a simple one-line edit that changed the "IP logged" link in posts to an image. I thought I was the man after I attempted installing that...:p. From that point on I couldn't help myself and I installed every hack I could get my hands on, things like; Private messaging, avatars, more than 5 moderators per forum, "Mega" (super) moderators, Polling system (board wide on the forumhome page, not per thread), Who's Online?, The Karma Hack, custom smilies and bbcode...and the list goes on and on...

4tugboat FTW! ;)

I think you had the most hacks ever on a board. Over a hundred +?

I recall being one of the few who actually went through every single CGI and PL file to do the edits. Then again I had rather an unorthodox way of modifying UBB. I actually went through every line of code just because.

I used to code hacks for UBB. "Upload custom avatar" was mine :P I made it before any forum had it.

I don't think I could install hacks with file edits nowadays though.

<font color="Navy">I second you Brandi...In addition, I think The problem is merely because of the fact that most of the mods/plugins one would need for a general forum, are already released in some variation or another in VB.ORG

Just like the economy or many aspects in life. There is a peak, once it is reached, you can;t go any further...</font>

And that is why I don't officially give support :P if I don't want I don't help *hmpf* -_-

You're Qasic? Or are you an author of another but similar mod?