That was a big whoops, sorry guys lol

you, R1, deserves a little kick in the bump... tsssss clients...

The fact the thread is a year old does not make it any less relevant now. :)

There's a correlation: They don't get paid - We sometimes don't behave - We all want 'recognition' toward our efforts :)

Can someone please fix the subject?

There -> their

It's irritating.

Thank you,

-Raymond

Heh, if only presidential elections worked that way.

Very true. I've got a situation where I've had to ban a sociopath from my main forum, and as a safeguard I had to ban him from the overflow 'debate' forum. He wants back on the debate forum, claiming he'd done nothing there. To a certain extent, it's true, but the fact is that I don't want him polluting my server. I'm currently getting 'contact us' used roughly twice a day at the moment, so I just added a topic of "I'm whining and can't take a hint".

I could set up something to delete his emails before they get to me, but they cheer me up. No matter how shitty my life gets, I'm not him.

Rapscallion

A weird approach but worked nonetheless..
I had a member on my forum that signed up to debate his version of a "truth." Immediately red flags went up as what he posted was copyrighted (I have my staff check most posts for copyrighted materials/text/etc as its posted), so it was removed. I did a thorough search and found out this user would recreate new usernames if banned/removed/etc, so playing on that card, we told him what his issue was - copyright infringement (and a couple other broken rules). A couple days later, he used the contact us form to contact me and dispute me saying me taking down the copyrighted materials was wrong, etc., and I thoroughly explained to him our rules, policies and procedures - offering him that if he wanted to post, we had no problem with him posting (even encouraged it - on his topic), where he could post and that it must be within said rules and policies.

He wrote back one more time - and I ignored it. I've not heard back since (at all).

I've just been told that adding the 'contact us' reason of "I'm banned and can't take a hint" is 'very funny'.

Glad he liked it.

Rapscallion

I'd like to make a note on the following statement... sorry, missed it first time out as I have been away.
What is the intent of this statement? Many forum owners do not have their own privacy policy and rely on whatever the vBulletin installation provides (or not as the case may be). This is fine.

Every professionally run forum will have a custom Privacy Policy written specifically for the context of the website on which it resides. You cannot possibly have a "stock" policy because it is not keyed to a site, though you can use a stock policy as a template.

So, what is DiesellMinded going on about? Would you not trust my own website simply because I'll be posting a professional Privacy Policy and Terms of Use geared to what my site will be about? By DiesellMinded's definition, vB.ORG is not to be trusted because they have their own custom Privacy Policy.

How silly.

As for PaulM's MU, it is fab, and is used against those eejits that really cannot take a hint and leave our boards alone. Long may it reign, and Mods like it. :up:

Happy days.

To the OP, what's it seriously got to do with you? No offense, but the admin can do whatever he wishes. Just concentrate on your own forum, let others' look after their own.

People install it along with your reputation hacks simply because as a society we enjoy picking on people. Members enjoy negative repping or anyway of discrediting someone because it gives us a sense of power.
Now what the instal figure shows is that the hack is good in the sense that it brings members but not good in the sense (which the first posters mentioned) that it divides and creates tension.

We called: 'Tough Love' :rolleyes:

p.s. Which is better that 'Thug Love' Eeeew!

or Cough Love...

Or sister love...

Heh, when I read this, I'm kind of reminded of a certain user from The Admin Zone with the same kinds of ideas. But never the less, remember that the forum owner is the one who runs the forum, the one who makes the decisions and the one who's ultimately got to decide how to run their forum.

You make me think... [ouch!]

... ATTENTION everybody... Josh is thinking...

edit: from the start, this thread had the intend to make any frustrated member here having a voice for these frustrations.. the problem is that we're all administrators somewhere, and each time we hit a frustrated member, we act with authority and usually we strike where it hurts more, the user access...

the guys here are doing it softly.. warnings, infractions, even just comments sometimes when posts are not deleted/moderated... and each time, they are trying to act the more politely possible -- even in some situations when we do not even deserve it...

the way the administration deal with the situations is different from moderators to moderators... mine are usually severe and without any pity... because i manage mega big sites where it would be too dangerous to start being friendly and graceful. the guys here may not be the best, they do not deserve to be insulted in public though... no site have the best staff... i have some stupid moronish admins among my 48 sites... and some are on the edge of being kicked out their own sites because they rule instead of administrating... but the only person who can really act on them is me, the site owner... no member will ever push me to act on my staff... i'm even heavier on whinners on my sites... i do not negotiate, i do not warn... i'm mercyless.

I hate some of the mods. I was expressing my opinions in the community reviews forum and all of my posts got deleted. So much for free speech.

freedom of speech is a responsability as a privilege.. you have to earn it... and it goes well with respect... if you just express your thoughts without thinking of the echoes of them, forget it... you miss the point. the moderators have to also evaluate if your thoughts respected the others... this is freedom of speech too... from great powers come great responsabilities... if your biggest power is the ability to express yourself, your responsability on the others respect and opinions is the same size...

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Hey, how did you find my father's portrait?!

Whilst drinking tea and eating crumpets for lunch. On a related note we had a beneficial conversation about members annoying (edit before thread gets closed) admins by spamming and posting spammy intros forcing admins in closing registrations to everyone. Like you said, and i'm sure with you if your not been minged you are left hanging in the balance. :rolleyes:

I agree with you on one thing is the read pms i think that is very wrong to read members pms..
but im pretty much the main admin.. i have 2 other lovely girls that will help out when needed.. i also dont ask for donations.. i also dont use the miserable user hack.. i have a made speical forum for people.. to harsh out the problems

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ahhhhhh poo didnt noticed this thread was old sorry guys

Claims of freedom of speech on the Internet always cheer me up. I occasionally get the odd person claiming I've infringed their first amendment rights. I have a specially prepared link ready for them explaining that:

a: The first amendment only covers the US government not censoring free speech.

b: It doesn't cover private arenas.

c: The owner and server are in another country anyway.

My moderating team, mostly in the US or Canadaland, love to point it out on the few occasions it's needed.

Rapscallion

At the end of the day, it is the admin's site and he can do whatever he likes with it. He can also treat members how he / she likes. It sounds tough, but it's the truth!

To be realistic the statement is a little inaccurate. They can enforce certain guidelines and run the community to an extent that they aren't being nasty/vicous to the member.

Example: I don't like a certain users username, I can't take it upon myself and viciously attack/treat this member badly otherwise the admin wouldn't have much of a community. Anyway, point being, you cannot treat members how you like you may be having a bad day and want to take it out on someone because they may have said something you didn't like and/or you didn't agree with.

On the topic of reading members pm's. I personally think this is a case of invasion of privacy. Pms are intended for one person eyes and that is the person who recieved the pm. I know of a certain admin site that has this script installed and views pms so i make a habit of ignoring pms which are sent to me. Members (my own opinion) should be aware of this if the sole basis is to stop spamming that most admins will blame for installing the script which is why I personally think they shouldn't have a problem in telling members before hand that they view members pms and have the script installed.

Makes me wonder if the read pm script is on this board which is why I ignore 99% of my pms which are sent to me from here.

Anyway. I hear tazmania is nice this time of the year. ;)



[QUOTE=nexialys]from great powers come great responsabilities[quote]

Someones beeen watching too much spiderman movies.

I'm curious, how does ignoring PMs have any bearing on whether their read or not?

Because maybe the person who was on the otherside of the pm may be sending information that they don't want other prying eyes to see?

I'm still confused. How does you not looking at them prevent the admins from looking at them?

Aren't you the guy that went through and crapped all over 20-30 review threads in a row with one word replies like "LOLSUCKS"?

I think the word was 'horrible.' :eek: Unless the ones you're talking about were deleted.:erm:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/search.ph...9&pp=25&page=3

they were, i reported them myself...

anyway, can we focus on something more appropriate??.. lol

Telling a member of our site to "jump of a bridge and die" is not covered by any freedom of speech.

PS This thread is not about vB.org, otherwise it would have been in the feedback forum.

Did you ever see me type in this post saying that it prevents an admin from reading a pm if it's left unanswered by myself/anyone (generally speaking here)? It just prevents me from responding though the original pm is left intact and not viewed.

I myself choose to ignore pms (yes, admins can still view it) that is not the debate. I'm just stating what I do if i think admins/staff are looking at members pms.

If you are still confused ther's nothing more i can say to help you with that as what I typed is self explanatory.

Actually, yeah, that's kind of what you implied. Hence my confusion.

Not what I implied, Try reading my post(s) again. Your confusion, My posts in this thread are concise and clear which leads me to your last remark. "My Confusion". Correct.... your confusion, something we can both agree on. :rolleyes:

Well, I'd wouldn't say I took a big leap.

Both times you suggested you don't read PMs because you think or suspect the script is installed. I don't know how that could be taken any other way.

Can this dispute on the interpretation of eachothers posts be taken to PM please.

Well now you can stop wondering. No it isnt.

Ah come on Paul, you broke the suspense...