Why live in the U.K. when they are hiring in the USA
http://tbe.taleo.net/NA5/ats/careers...T&cws=2&rid=65

That is not Jelsoft hiring, and that job offer has already been posted before Jelsoft was acquired as far as i know.

I hope the (technical) staff will benefit from this financially, I think they do deserve this...

For all the doom-thinkers: there are a lot of (good) alternatives, so if the new 'managment' will screw up, they'll be 'corrected' by the customers soon and hard enough :) so, no worries with me...

actually, negociations for aquiring Jelsoft did not start 2 days before the announcement... and i'm sure it is not from last week either... so i suppose the IB guys had something in mind when they posted this job call...

actually, this is a good job call... why someone would have a problem with it ?!.. .that just mean that IB have a lot of vBulletin boards - all their sites are managed with vB for the curious...

people are freaking about the transaction but damn, the deal is good, why focus on that... it is not Jelsoft the problem actually...

As with any business the owners are seeking a profit, so if they have an opportunity to better themselves, good deal. Only time will tell if the new owners keep the product first rate and affordable.

actually, they will keep it good priced or they will loose all the actual market. ... the new products released or to be released by Jelsoft are to be bought firstly by actual clients... if the prices higher even just a penny from the plans, they would loose everybody's perspective.

They have bought a brand that is not only depending on the product (vBulletin) but is also greatly depending on the name we have in the market regarding to the quality of the product and the support given.

I doubt I.B. will make any changes that would degrade the "value" of the brand. If they want to make a profit of the transaction then it does not seem wise to change the value the brand has in the market.

PS 'Profit' is not always measured in hard cash only.

Nah, I.B. uses VB for all their stuff and they just got tired of hiring coders to make stuff for them so they just bought the Jelsoft Company to make more stuff for them.

Hey, could be true lol.

Most whiners here would sell there big forums in a blink if a good enough offer comes in. So why tie Jelsoft's hands? Some of these responses are so retarded, its even worse than childish. We can only hope the big gun running the show keep the focus on the customer, that's all. If they don't, another product will benefit from the repercussion.

Now let's quit whining already. It isn't like its going to reverse the sale anyhow...

I think ultimately every software developer wants one of two things, to either control the market being the biggest, the best and having subsidiaries like Microsoft OR to have their product brought out by one of the aforementioned companies. I would've hoped that Jelsoft would've held out for a Silicon Valley style company that specialises in software development as opposed to opportunist investors looking to make some money but alas. All bets are off as to the future of Jelsoft, but i suspect, or should i say hope that 4.0 won't be affected by this acquisition.

Good to see vBulletin moving up in the world. :)

hmmm.......

good luck to vB and hopefully the new company will stay silent in day to day activities.

This is kind of like when the American took over Manchester Utd :p

It has been there for months and its probably to manage their hundreds of vBulletin licenses.

the more you look into this deal the more you realize that this could be a great thing for any new social-networking features .. vast amounts of money, servers, and resources

for example, why ping/direct to technorati when you can create your own network? (just throwing ideas) :D

Nah, what actually happened was that Microsoft paid Apple money for Apple to put Office and Internet Explorer on the Mac. It was a software monopoly move by Microsoft.

The money involved was US $150 million, which was certainly not to "save Apple." Apple's loss - on paper - in 1997 was about $800 million, but Apple still had a cash reserve. You have to be careful when you read financial statements.

Gates was trying to take advantage of Apple's temporary financial weakness to get Office and IE as default software products on the Mac, and further monopolize computer software in general. Part of the deal was to have Macs ship with Office installed, and with IE as the default browser.

So, Gates made a software monopoly move, Jobs said "okay, Bill," and took the money with a smile. And now, sure Office is still common on the Mac, but IE, which was supposed to be the default Mac browser, doesn't even exist on the Mac anymore (except in discontinued legacy software.) Microsoft did get access to Apple patents, but MS hasn't done piddle with that, that anybody can see, and it's been 10 years. Vista, anybody? Jobs basically took Gates to the cleaners. :D

But back to the vB saga. Has Internet Brands issued any official statement? The most recent thing I saw on their website was from May.

That's not the way Steve Jobs explained it in an Interview with the Wall Street Journal a couple of weeks ago but okay.

it is not the way Jobs and Gates described it in the D5:
http://d5.allthingsd.com/20070531/d5...bs-transcript/

;)

There is all this mention of them having most of their websites run with vBulletin
, if this is the case i really can't see this being a bad problem.

Looking through some of their sites they are pretty big forums that have been going on for a long time, so more than likely they have a vast amount of experience with vBulletin from its early stages so they know the system as well as most of you claim to do.

So it's not really some stranger company coming in hearing that vBulletin is the leader with Bulletin Boards. And trying to force their ideas upon vBulletin not really knowing what vBulletin is about.

It is a company with a vast amount of experience in this field. So at the end of the day when vBulletin was going to be bought out (was pretty inevitable really) then this must have been one of the best companies you could have asked for to buy out vBulletin. Like i say they must have a vast amount of experience with vBulletin since most of their sites use it instead of IPB.

What i'm trying to say really is this is better than some money grabbing company coming in with no idea of what vBulletin is, how it works and what it is used for. This is a company who must have masses of experience with the product looking at the age of some of their sites with vBulletin on.

Does everybody remember what happened to Madrona Park / Infopop when it tried to expand?

IB purchased all of the forums in their portfolio... I think, but am not 100% sure, that they kept the original owners on as staff to help run it.

As long as IB let the vBulletin development team keep enough independence to carry on doing what they’re good at, and not try and absorb the vB brand/product into their own too much this can only be a good thing. Don’t get me wrong a bit of fresh blood is a good thing now and then, just don’t mess with chemistry that seems to be working so well.

Thanks,
Mat.

Hopefully the price won't rise so high, the whole greatness of vb is its high quality and semi-low price.

I wonder how much money they sold it for, they're probably millionaire's.

If your site has very good content, then you may get a check from them as well. I think this company want to control internet media and is doing a very good job of hiding it from others. It is a good way to control what is said on these types of forums and can influence any group(s) if you can censor what is said and not.

Thats giving them too much credit.

Is vb.org sold too? Is it owned by jelsoft too?

Unfortunately I do as I was a moderator there for a few years, don't see many hobby Groupee boards around now. Just hope a certain webhost we both share doesn't follow this path.

i worked for InfoPop 'til they branched, and i can tell that their project of making the groupee was the worst possible... hosting what they were not able to manage at first is a bad deal...

they have 3 months to fix this, if i remember right... their project is at stakes

What does servers have to do with us? Is Jelsoft going to host all of our forums? No.

May i ask this, have any of the coders for vBulletin be changed or modified?

WTF...

If u want me to be sinceir ( or whatever )... this is going to affect in the prices, and if this happens ... they'll lose custumers ... =o...

but whatever... =o just hope they dnt take adventage of us ..

I will try to answer some of the question raised in this thread.

If there are any more questions, feel free to post them in this thread and i will try to answer if possible.

What will change for vBulletin.org?
As all the members here have an interest in the future of vBulletin.org, this is a question that is on the mind of many members.

vBulletin.org has always been a website that, although supported by Jelsoft, have been run by volunteer members out of the community. There are no plans at the moment to make any change in how vBulletin.org is operated.

Will we see a raise in the license pricing?
Since the first release of vBulletin 1.0 in 2000, we have never raised the price of vBulletin licenses. The key strategy moving forward is not to shift prices markedly upwards and make buying vBulletin an unattractive proposition, but rather to offer a broader range of products and services to better cater for all audiences.

I wonder if this means they will be developing more products. (Other than vB)

Jelsoft is already developing more products. Project Tools was recently released, and the BLog is running beta at vbulletin.com at this time.

hey you guys made front page news at WebMasterWorld!! Congrats!! :D :D

I would disagree with you there...the features and quality of all HP/Compaq product lines has maintained with the industry. This is not a result of the merger.

From my point of view that merger was not good, it made working with the company WAY more difficult...there support end is still in transition.

Other than that I agree with you. We will have to wait and see how this merger works out.

I will flip if they start encrypting the source with ioncube and zend... that's my only real concern because it's so vital to the development community for add ons, etc... if the price rises a bit that's ok by me, i think vbulletin is worth it, but i'll be very disappointed when / if they start encrpypting the source code.

I can't say I am thrilled that a corporate business bought them out, but I certainly understand why vBulletin went with it.

Past corporate buyouts of other companies has shown how easily things can go terribly wrong. I hope that nothing changes in regards to how vBulletin is currently sold and managed.

Time will tell if this is good for the vBulletin Community.

encryption is one thing... if they provide the encryption key to developpers and product creators, the encryption is good... something like we pay 500$ to be able to access the core code and provide real efficient products built upon it... this will discourage the hackers and the coders-to-be... (because admit it, you prefer a hack that works, not a hack that need to be recoded each time a version is released)

Really? I can think of alot of tips for vbulletin.org, i dislike the way it is operated and you are using the same colours that default vbulletin uses, totally gross. Bring back that old skin, the blue one that some external site designed for you.

Invision Power Board is $5.00 cheaper than vbulletin. Why don't the prices get lowered to beat them? You display not much competition at all to the person with alot of money in their pocket and no brain, the type of person who buys a forum and sets it up with no idea. But what does Jelsoft care, they still get the money, right?

There is already a free project tools, the MGC one, i am using it and in my opinion i would rather pay for that one instead of the jelsoft one, i really dislike the jelsoft one. MGC's is very simple and straight forward.

Answer?


Edit: @ nexialys, i would be extreamly p!553d if they even charged a dollar for the code. It would mean hundreds of people moving into IPB from vB. And personally, i dislike IPB's template system. Normal forum owners should be able to customise the core the way they like. The only thing that should be encrypted is the copyright. But it wouldnt matter if they encrypted it all, it would only take one person to purchase the key or to decrypt it and then release it to everyone on underground forums.

There are no plans for vBulletin to move to a closed source model. Also, there are no plans to implement any additional call-home elements.