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oldfan 07-17-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartho (Post 1293524)
I think you should delete the
Code:

<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="2; URL=http://metallifukinca.com/forums.php" />
line.

It would probably be a good idea to edit the navbar template for this skin and make sure that Home link point to forums.php rather than index.php

I tried that, i just doesn't auto redirect anymore.
when i click on the link it just loops

dartho 07-17-2007 11:12 PM

I see the issue - vbadvanced integrated into your forums - every page is a vbadvanced page. I didn't know this was possible..

try this one as your adv_portal template - it will only disaply your centre CMPS blocks :
Code:

$stylevar[htmldoctype]
<html>
<head>
$headinclude
</head>
<body>
$header
$navbar
<div>
        <if condition="$show['center_column']">
        $home[centerblocks]
        </if>
</div>
$footer
</body>
</html>


RyanC 07-23-2007 06:12 PM

I think the simple ability to delete posts and threads would be a huge improvement...

tekguru 07-25-2007 07:33 AM

Feedback from one of my Mods who has been using it extensively:

Quote:

ok, so I've used the mobile version on the S710 for a couple of days now and so here's some feedback:

- The threads in New Posts search, do not show the forum that they are in, even when you go into the post. This is especially important for Mods as they can't easily tell if they're in the wild or not.
-No page numbers listed on the New Posts page so you can't opt to go straight to page number 1 for example.
-No mark all as read option in the new posts list
-The portal display isn't the best
-No moderation tools
-Quick reply box only appears on the last page of a thread
Comments?

dartho 07-26-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

- The threads in New Posts search, do not show the forum that they are in, even when you go into the post. This is especially important for Mods as they can't easily tell if they're in the wild or not.
This is in the next update

Quote:

-No page numbers listed on the New Posts page so you can't opt to go straight to page number 1 for example.
You sure? Unless I'm looking in the wrong place, I can see them when I log onto your site? Page nav is however a little messy, I'll fix this in the next update

Quote:

-No mark all as read option in the new posts list
I'll see what I can do...

Quote:

-The portal display isn't the best
Portal? Or the style itself? Colours can easily be modifed by editing the CSS, as for layout, I've tried to make it so it will display OK on the widest range of devices, not just new devices.

Quote:

-No moderation tools
There are no plans for moderation tools in this style

Quote:

-Quick reply box only appears on the last page of a thread
This is in the next update

Next update also has a who's online, and subscribed threads plus whatever else I add in the mean time.

tekguru 07-26-2007 06:26 AM

Cheers for the reply. I've fed back to the team - forget the comments about the Portal as these are of course referring to VbA with the side columns removed.

May I ask why basic mod tools are not planned at all?

dartho 07-26-2007 08:08 AM

Navigation menu space is at a premium is the main reason. For those browsing from a small screen mobile phone, it can get very cluttered, esp given that drop downs may not necessarily be supported.

I do plan on taking this skin (once I think it is out of beta stage) and extending it for more modern/larger screen devices - I will add Mod controls in that skin...

dartho 07-26-2007 12:01 PM

version 2.05 released with some requested changes added!



As of this release I have added a very small link on the Forum Home below the footer (this link only appears on Forum home - not every page). I have kept the size of this link to a minimum (it currently reads "2.05 by TWF" where TWF is a link back to one of my websites where I primarily developed this skin for and 2.05 is the current version)

Sorry to do this, but I have spent many hours on this and have decided to get some benefit (other than warm fuzzys and the adoration of my peers) from it.

You may remove this with my permission after making a paypal donation. This can be done via the "Support Developer" link above (just a few links below the "Mark as Installed" link).

tekguru 07-26-2007 01:04 PM

And installed more feedback later! Donation likely to follow as soon as I get my Adsense revenue in :)

tekguru 07-26-2007 06:34 PM

Okay more feedback from my Mods:

Quote:

We still have 2 portal login areas- 1 high in the portal with a remember me option, and one at the bottom, without a 'remember'

The Forum page does only have 1 login area, but it doesn't have a 'remember me' option, so it is necessary to log in each visit if PIE has been closed.

dartho 07-26-2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek_Trotter (Post 1290984)
Good work!
Can you tell me where in the mobile skin we can put some script to trace mobile device visitors?

I've added an example on how to add logging in the Mobile Device Detect Thread here

Lee A Burnett 07-26-2007 11:00 PM

Hey dartho - you're the man! This template is working great at our site -- our members are loving it.

Here is some feedback from our members:
  1. Add ability to reverse order of posts - to reduce need to scroll through thread.
  2. Add 'report bad post' feature.

tekguru 07-27-2007 11:27 AM

Okay here we go with examples from my team:

1) No page numbers with the posts on New Posts screen:

http://www.4winmobile.com/news/nopost.jpg

2) Login from mobile forums; No Remember Me

http://www.4winmobile.com/news/login1.jpg

3) Login page if username/password incorrect on previous page (double login spaces); No Remember Me

http://www.4winmobile.com/news/login2.jpg


4) Login from halfway down Portal page; Has Remember Me

http://www.4winmobile.com/news/login3.jpg

dartho 07-27-2007 01:19 PM

Yep - there is currently no "Remember Me" option - next release

There really isn't much I can do about the portal in a VBulletin skin.

As for the new posts screen - I get page numbers on your site via my PDA - page numbers appear at the very top just below the nav bar, and at the very bottom just above the navbar - these aren't visible in the screen shots provided. Could you get your testers to get one of these areas in the next screenshot?

So - 3 issues really - no remember me option, duplicate login requetss on error and apparently no page numbers in 'new posts' ?

I'll do what I can to fix things, and add (IMHO) suitable feature requests - Thanks for the feedback!

tekguru 07-27-2007 02:09 PM

Cheers again for the reply - fed back to the test team.

tekguru 07-27-2007 03:21 PM

And feed back from my testers ref teh page numbers:

Quote:

..... wrong end of the stick on the page numbers!

Just to be clear I'm talking about the pages of the actual posts being available as direct links from this page and not that the New Posts page itself has links to its subsequent pages.

Each post that has more than one page would usually offer the option of going directly to any one of those pages.

So the issue is NOT page numbers for the New Posts page itself.
Hope that is clear ?

dartho 07-27-2007 10:46 PM

Ok - I get it now, your tester means the page numbers in the thread title....

dartho 07-27-2007 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee A Burnett (Post 1302639)
Hey dartho - you're the man! This template is working great at our site -- our members are loving it.

Here is some feedback from our members:
  1. Add ability to reverse order of posts - to reduce need to scroll through thread.
  2. Add 'report bad post' feature.

Thanks Lee - I'll add a report bad post link in to the next release.

As for the display order, that can't be done on the fly - it's an option set in the user control panel on a user by user basis (although I think the default is set by the admin). It's unlikely that I will get around to revamping the usercp with options like that, but I'll keep it in mind if I do.

tekguru 07-28-2007 06:56 AM

Glad we got there in the end - looking forward to the next version!

dartho 07-28-2007 11:35 AM

OK - I spent the day ignoring the family, here's a new version with pretty much all requests added in, including some I said I wasn;t going to do....

- Page numbers appear in thread bits
- UserCP page, with access to PMs, Subscribed Threads, Edit Signature, Edit Options (which includes changing view from oldest first to newest first
- Basic MOD options added - can delete posts and threads (and undelete also)
- Remember me added to login in footer (duplicate login screens removed

I should probably test this more extensively and re validate it, but thought you wouldn;t mind a pre-release

tekguru 07-28-2007 08:52 PM

Sounds good grabbing now :)

However I'm about to upgrade to 3.6.8 from 3.6.7PL1 - is the style compatible with 3.6.8 ?

Lee A Burnett 07-28-2007 09:51 PM

Wow, the new 2.06 is awesome! Thanks. :)

dartho 07-28-2007 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tekguru (Post 1304191)
Sounds good grabbing now :)

However I'm about to upgrade to 3.6.8 from 3.6.7PL1 - is the style compatible with 3.6.8 ?

Shouldn't have any issues with 3.6.8

@Lee - glad you're liking it :up:

tekguru 07-29-2007 11:17 AM

Cheers for adviseing that it is okay for use with 3.6.8 :)

Feedback from the guys is now looking very positive:

Quote:

This is realy good!

Page numbers now showing Mostly and User CP much better.

And now to confirm, the Login page now works correctly!

Thanks to the developer for being so responsive.
----------------
Looking really good from here over wifi, layout fits well on my Hermes, page numbers show ok. Pages load quickly. Roger over and out!

dartho 07-30-2007 12:48 AM

Excellent - any other requests/suggestions?

tekguru 07-30-2007 04:11 PM

Nothing yet!

Smiry Kin's 07-31-2007 07:12 AM

Feel free to use these real time images. :) taken about 3 minutes ago on a blackberry. :)

Regards.

Mark Hewitt 07-31-2007 08:05 AM

Brilliant skin, just what I was looking for :D

dartho 07-31-2007 08:46 AM

Glad you like it! Feel free to click "Mark as Installed" ;)

As soon as this skin has no new suggestions/fixes etc for a week or two I'll mark it as no longer a Beta, and use it as a foundation for a skin aimed for more recent devices such as Windows Mobile devices, Blackberrys (and others as suggested) which uses drop downs, basic javascript etc...

So all feedback (positive and negative) is welcome in the mean time. If you've modified the CSS, feel free to upload if you want to share - the colour scheme has had more negative comments than anything else!

Mark Hewitt 07-31-2007 11:12 AM

One thing I did find. When you are in showthread, the link which carries the name of the current forum actually links to the parent forum of that forum, if you see what I mean..
So in many cases it would take you back to the main index, not the forumdisplay.

So where it had $foruminfo[parentid] I've changed it to $foruminfo[forumid] and now that works fine.

The only addition I think think of at the moment is when you click on the "Rep" button it would be good if that included the quoted text from the post, otherwise you might as well just use the quick reply at the bottom.

Mark Hewitt 07-31-2007 11:45 AM

PS. It also looks like there is no way to register by just using the mobile version?

dartho 07-31-2007 12:18 PM

I though it *did* include quoted text (at least it did somewhere along the line ina previous version.... anyway....)

I'll add the quoted text back in as well as fixing the $foruminfo[forumid] link.

Thanks!

brott 07-31-2007 01:18 PM

I just tried to import this "out of the box" into 3.6.8 and it will not work. modifying the version information in the XML to 3.6.8 helps but there is still a database error on import. Sounds like upgrading is fine, but from scratch doesn't work properly.

tekguru 07-31-2007 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartho (Post 1306020)
use it as a foundation for a skin aimed for more recent devices such as Windows Mobile devices, Blackberrys (and others as suggested) which uses drop downs, basic javascript etc...

Yay sounds good to me!

tekguru 07-31-2007 08:34 PM

Another comment from one of my guys when I advised where you were going with the theme. He is unaware of the style detector Mod:

Quote:

hmmm, sounds ok except as long as we can choose which one to use as I'm quite happy as is for smartphone!

One improvement suggestion is to mirror the top of page links at the bottom of the page too, some pages are a long old scroll on a phone.

Mark Hewitt 08-01-2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartho (Post 1306020)
Glad you like it! Feel free to click "Mark as Installed" ;)

As soon as this skin has no new suggestions/fixes etc for a week or two I'll mark it as no longer a Beta, and use it as a foundation for a skin aimed for more recent devices such as Windows Mobile devices, Blackberrys (and others as suggested) which uses drop downs, basic javascript etc...

Can't we have moderator functions in the existing version? I don't have a blackberry or PDA but I do have a mobile phone.

For each thread there could just be a "Manage Thread" link which brings up a menu for the likes of 'Stick Thread', 'Close Thread', options for renaming etcetc. Wasn't so long ago in vb2 we did just fine thankyouverymuch without drop down menus etc.

It would be a shame to get the mobile version up to this point then stop development to produce a more bloated version :(

dartho 08-01-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hewitt (Post 1306878)
It would be a shame to get the mobile version up to this point then stop development to produce a more bloated version :(

That's why I've asked for more comment/suggestions - I'll do what I can https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2011/01/19.gif

aapkae 08-03-2007 10:51 AM

no screen shoot?

dartho 08-04-2007 11:28 AM

You'll find that they are in the "Screenshots" section, there are also links to emulators and live sites.

Mark Hewitt 08-07-2007 08:35 AM

Some thoughts after using it for a few days..

It's difficult to keep track of latest posts. When forums have new posts they have a green background, my suggestion is to extend this into the forumdisplay, when a thread has new posts, it has a green background.

Additionally, for the posts themselves, the header bar with the username, that should have a green background when it's a new post.

Also it doesn't seem to jump to the latest post the way it does on the full version. I don't know if that's a limitation of the skin or my phone.

PS You can find my forums at http://m.motorsportforum.com/


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