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PennylessZ28 01-08-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1153432)
The "Forums" tab at the top right is a link back to forumhome (or click on "vbulletin mods" top left).


You guys are so freaking typical. Why make any suggestions at all, you just do what you want. You've been doing this and running vb.org like this for 2 years. :mad:

The Nav Bits are a bad idea and you know it. It's confusing! I should not have to learn somethign new simply becuase you think we should. Your like freaking Microsoft.

BaconDelight 01-08-2007 04:56 PM

What happened to being able to select a theme? That's my biggest gripe with the new style.

da420 01-08-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PennylessZ28 (Post 1153757)
You guys are so freaking typical. Why make any suggestions at all, you just do what you want. You've been doing this and running vb.org like this for 2 years. :mad:

The Nav Bits are a bad idea and you know it. It's confusing! I should not have to learn somethign new simply becuase you think we should. Your like freaking Microsoft.

Sorry, but I highly doubt that typing in large bold text is going to get your point across any differently.

The way I see it is this... whether you like it or not, it's only a style. If a style is the only thing that keeps you at this site, maybe this site is not for you. Is it set up the way you want? Not always, and not everything is always going to be tip top right off the bat. The only thing you can do is make creative suggestions, which you are not doing such, and just seem to be looking to draw attention to yourself. Things are still new, it's going to take some getting used to, you just have to view it with an mind open to the change. If you do not, then you will never get over this, and if that is the case, it's probably best for you to just leave if it bothers you that much that in every thread you feel the need to complain, and give little, if nothing constructive.

Paul, and the rest of the vB staff are going to run things how they feel neccissary. Things may or may not change, but less than 24 hours into it, you can not expect them to address, and fix every single issue or request by every member. You can give suggestions, but if your suggestions are not in a positive, constructive manner then it is highly unlikely they will be addressed.

That being said, I like the new things that the team brought to the table. The styles I am not so crazy about, but the other things are good, and I am looking forward for what the future has in store. Thanks to the staff for your hard work.

DirectPixel 01-08-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1153136)
In all the threads there seemed to have arguments back and forth
Wanted to see what the majority thinks
*Poll your vote

I like this new style. Very nicely integrated, and not bad on the eyes either. :)

I personally think the old Smooth Blue style looked like crap. :p

Paul M 01-08-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DirectPixel (Post 1153891)
I personally think the old Smooth Blue style looked like crap. :p

I would blame the designer of it ;)

DirectPixel 01-08-2007 08:38 PM

I would too. ;)

jwocky 01-08-2007 09:06 PM

IMO: Big big mistake going to this style. From a graphics standpoint the previous one was LIGHTYEARS ahead of this one. I understand the need for change and to add functionality, etc.. I'm speaking from a graphics/visualization standpoint. Its a shame to give up something so good to be honest.

BaconDelight 01-08-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BaconDelight (Post 1153784)
What happened to being able to select a theme? That's my biggest gripe with the new style.

*slaps forhead* It only took me 3 scans through the CP to find it.

But still, the options are less creative than the old options. I don't mind the overall formatting changes that happened, but definitely preferred the old color scheme options that included the darker-palette choices.

Shazz 01-08-2007 09:17 PM

Smooth blue did look like crap, and never knew how it got to be the default last year :confused:

wengi 01-08-2007 09:31 PM

Old style for me looks better :)

Transverse Styles 01-08-2007 09:34 PM

Old style... definitely...different online.

malc1959 01-08-2007 09:36 PM

old style for me too

SCRIPT3R 01-08-2007 09:42 PM

at least update the buttons too.

da420 01-08-2007 10:05 PM

I agree with that... new buttons would be cool... but as long as they function that's all that really matters... :)

Shazz 01-08-2007 10:14 PM

I loved the little evelops https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2007/01/15.gif

Luky 01-08-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by itsid (Post 1153507)
well hit the "old style" option.

I don't like fixed styles very much...

make this one a fullscreen and I'll be fine ;)

'sid

[EDIT]
found the checkbox in my usercp... fluid.. perfect ...
If I only could change to postbit_legacy too... :D

On the same page these is another option to switch to legacy, or as they call it the "old" post bit.

why Cant We Have Both The Old One And The New One To Pick From?

Shazz 01-08-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Luky (Post 1154064)
On the same page these is another option to switch to legacy, or as they call it the "old" post bit.

why Cant We Have Both The Old One And The New One To Pick From?

You do have the old postbit and the new postbit to pick from?

Guest190829 01-08-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1154071)
You do have the old postbit and the new postbit to pick from?

Edit Options -> Thread Display Options -> Default Postbit -> Select 'Yes, I prefer old-style postbit. '

JamieLee2k 01-08-2007 10:33 PM

Hate it, Hate it, Hate it, oh and did I say Hate it

Navigation is worse, the layout is all wrong, and I really think you should give us the choice of the old style

Shazz 01-08-2007 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny.VBT (Post 1154075)
Edit Options -> Thread Display Options -> Default Postbit -> Select 'Yes, I prefer old-style postbit. '

Thats what I ment, I was confused by his question :cool:

SCRIPT3R 01-08-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JamieLee2k (Post 1154078)
Hate it, Hate it, Hate it, oh and did I say Hate it

Navigation is worse, the layout is all wrong, and I really think you should give us the choice of the old style

c'mon, tell us how you really feel. ;)

Smoothie 01-08-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KURTZ (Post 1153494)
no! :D CHECK-OUT!

That's not the one I'm talking about.

Mark.B 01-08-2007 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KURTZ (Post 1153494)
no! :D CHECK-OUT!

There is a better way to do that, involving a small plugin and a custom field. It's on here somewhere, but I believe it's also actually on vbulletin.com as well for some reason. I have it on my site, users simply selct "top" or "left" styles (a user-friendly way of saying standard or legacy) similar to on here but with both options and a radio button for each.

You alter the plugin depending on which one you want as default. Saves having two styles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 1154105)
There is a better way to do that, involving a small plugin and a custom field. It's on here somewhere, but I believe it's also actually on vbulletin.com as well for some reason. I have it on my site, users simply selct "top" or "left" styles (a user-friendly way of saying standard or legacy) similar to on here but with both options and a radio button for each.

You alter the plugin depending on which one you want as default. Saves having two styles.

Found it!

It's on vbulletin.com too, even though it uses a small plugin:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169124

It's not the same one as used here but it will give you the same effect - a user-selectable postbit without different styles for each.

Lars-Christian 01-08-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1153432)
The "Forums" tab at the top right is a link back to forumhome (or click on "vbulletin mods" top left).

I'm aware, but that doesn't really help when I instictively hover over the breadcrumb in order to get back to forumhome. I don't see the purpose of removing it at all. Was it done just to try and differentiate from the rest? Either way, it's a bad idea. Just because everyone else is doing something one way, it doesn't mean that you have to change it. It just might be that it works.

Paul M 01-08-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JamieLee2k (Post 1154078)
and I really think you should give us the choice of the old style

Sorry, but the old styles are gone for good, they have already been deleted from the forum.

Logikos 01-08-2007 11:30 PM

I really enjoy the new styles compared to the older styles. I also understand why you would want one just one style for a site. Managing mutable styles is a pain plus managing one style leaves more room to work on other aspects of the site.

Paul M 01-08-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lars-Christian (Post 1154112)
I'm aware, but that doesn't really help when I instictively hover over the breadcrumb in order to get back to forumhome.

Believe it or not - I know what you mean - I have the same problem on the TAZ forums because their Quick Links and New Posts links are not on the right next to the logout, I instinctivly go there and end up on some Zoints or Tags link. Things are not always the same, but people adapt. I don't think the breadcrumbs is likely to be changed.

Bubble #5 01-08-2007 11:48 PM

The worst thing about the new style is that it is way too narrow, giving it a unprofessional feel. If it was set to 90-95% it would be more acceptable.

peterska2 01-08-2007 11:51 PM

There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options

DirectPixel 01-08-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by peterska2 (Post 1154143)
There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options

Maybe it'll be nice to have that displayed in a more noticeable way. Lots of people seem to be having trouble finding it. :)

lighter 01-09-2007 12:03 AM

The new one!!!

Bubble #5 01-09-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by peterska2 (Post 1154143)
There is an option to use a fluid width (100%) in the userCP > User options

THANK YOU peterska2 :)

Ascor 01-09-2007 02:17 AM

I love the new one, look more professional :)

SCRIPT3R 01-09-2007 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirectPixel (Post 1154146)
Maybe it'll be nice to have that displayed in a more noticeable way. Lots of people seem to be having trouble finding it. :)

i agree... why not add in a Quick Style Chooser near the bottom of the forums? i perfer the fluid styles myself.

Lars-Christian 01-09-2007 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 1154133)
Believe it or not - I know what you mean - I have the same problem on the TAZ forums because their Quick Links and New Posts links are not on the right next to the logout, I instinctivly go there and end up on some Zoints or Tags link. Things are not always the same, but people adapt. I don't think the breadcrumbs is likely to be changed.

No problem. I'm just giving you my $0.02, and I'm glad you even noticed it, and I'll have no problem adaptating, just need to reorganize some stuff up there in my head, and it's really quite messy.

Having managed a site of equal size as vB.org, I know that times like these (right after a major rehaul) are never really pleasant, but just hang in there. Filter out all of those nonsense posts about how everything is going wrong here, and try to take notice of constructive feedback, and of course positive ;) In a few weeks, all is back to normal and people will love you all again.

imported_infitech 01-09-2007 05:29 AM

The new Skin is approximately 1 BILLION times better!
YAY FOR A MORE COMFORTABLE FIXED SKIN!
WOW!
Bravo!
  • How long has this been in the works?
  • Is it going to be available for the general public?
  • Who did it?
  • I'm not sure if it were there before or if I'm just noticing it because of the new skin, but what articles mod is it?
  • What other mods are installed with this new skin?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 1154139)
The worst thing about the new style is that it is way too narrow, giving it a unprofessional feel. If it was set to 90-95% it would be more acceptable.

(This is not JUST an opinion) ^^^^WRONG!^^^^

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Originally Posted by Ascor (Post 1154220)
I love the new one, look more professional :)

I STRONGLY agree.

This new layout makes me want to post more.
VBulletin.org is now my HOMEPAGE! :p

AntiThesis 01-09-2007 06:37 AM

I voted for the new style.

It's streamlined, allows much easier navigation and all round quite nice. Good work on that.

Marco van Herwaarden 01-09-2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GearTripper (Post 1154225)
i agree... why not add in a Quick Style Chooser near the bottom of the forums? i perfer the fluid styles myself.

Because it technically is only 1 style. The "Style" option in the UserCP, is more somehting like a color-scheme picker. It is all in a single style that gets dynamically adjusted to the users settings.

Marco van Herwaarden 01-09-2007 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imported_infitech (Post 1154341)
  • How long has this been in the works?
  • Is it going to be available for the general public?
  • Who did it?
  • I'm not sure if it were there before or if I'm just noticing it because of the new skin, but what articles mod is it?
  • What other mods are installed with this new skin?

The whole process have taken many months of discussing, prototyping and styling/coding.

No it will not be made available to general public as we like to have our own unique look, and it contains many vBulletin.org specific features.

The styling is mostly done by Princeton, the coding mostly by Paul.

There is not a real articles mod.

Many, many, many most coded specific for our (members) needs.

zappsan 01-09-2007 08:30 AM

The new style is a lot better than the old one IMO :)


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