lmfao noobie? what gives you the right to call someone a newbie when you cant even prevent hotlinking?

umm, I chose not to because I allow it on some of my sites for my hosting customers (durh...). I am more worried about the original artwork. But hey, your new..

Im new? How did you figure this one out?

Your smell.. :) And there is a date under your avatar.

This guy is a tool. Did you ever think a member makes a second name?

I knew I smelled that "new car" smell; and here I thought it was just codemoxie.

Pfffft. Second names are for people who have something to hide.

DM, have you considered a air freshner for this 'name' then? And no, I dont use second or third or fourth names. I am not the type of guy to hide, I prefer to let you know how I am :)

Nah I have nothing to hide at all. And If you must know the only reason I made this name was so I could keep the names the same on both sites .org and .com since on .com my other name was taken.

So you are the artist formerly known as ?

Also, the Ebon luuuv guys banned my screen name. Bummer, I was soo digging their site..

Me and only one Me. Are you now going to get your lawyer to send me a letter too meat head?

'meat head' ? Man, that was harsh. I have to go get my 9 year old to laugh at that one, be right back :)

But hey thanks for the images Ill use them on my award system :).

lol np, so you wont mind if I trademark 'meat head' then? I was thinking fo starting some forums dedicated to noobies :)

Go for the gold. Just let me know if you have any good images on that site to.

Do your teachers in high school ever let you get the last word or just on these threads?

Nah I would have never let them speak to me face to face like that when I was in high school. These threads mean nothing compared to the real life.

I never saw any images being hotlinked when he first posted this thread. At least not with the sites he reported.

It was the ebony luv site, it was the first one I found. They actually fixed the hotlinking and just copied my images completely to their site. Brain children I tell you.

Another thread where people just can't control themselves. Stick to the topic and stop picking/insulting each other or this will be closed.

Wilco

All work and no play.... good thing I'm blonde haired and blue eyed.

Jesus, all this over some silly little rank images.

Nope, read the thread before you post.

I did read the thread, every single post. And I still think it's a bit OTT really, no offense intended.

You can't really have images installed on your site, that are not hotlink protected. And expect that people will not use them after finding them in google image search. I've seen this argument many times on other sites about images. The bottom line is this, if you don't want others using them. You should watermark them and enable hotlink protection right from the very word go.

If your just going to upload them without watermarks, and also not even enable hotlink protection so there not advertised in Google images for anybody to use and get. I really don't see your complaint to be honest, you've left yourself wide open. There could be a thousand other sites out there by now using your images that your totally un-aware off.

I once knew a guy who created fantastic banner logo's, he went on to create header logos for cash for businesses. The same happened to him. He uploaded demo's without watermarks. And everybody used them. He had the same argument as this thread. But everybody told him it was his own silly mistake for not watermarking them as demo's.

If I leave my garage door open, does that mean I should expect people to come in and take my things? Of course not. I have a reasonable expectation that people will respect my property even though I know that there are those out there who do not.

Just because people "can", doesn't mean that you should expect it or not be upset when someone does it. I might leave my front door unlocked, but that doesn't mean the first person I don't know who walks through isn't going to get beat or shot.

Sure, you can prevent hotlinking. You can watermark. You can do many things that in the end won't stop everyone from stealing your stuff and it doesn't mean that the people who do it are any less guilty because you didn't.

Kind of like saying that gal who got raped shouldn't have been out drinking - nothing justifies the actions of the rapist.

Not that you're all wrong, but it's obvious you haven't read the thread.

This is not from a google search. This is from allowing his review section to be shown as an example. And others just grabing what they need without asking. And on top of that, someone grabing them and selling them to others that are using this mod.

As far as google that can be fixed easing by turning off indexing for that directory and including it in robots.txt

And it makes no sense whatsoever to watermark images that are being used in an actual application. That would look kind of silly now wouldn't it.

That being said, the responce was a bit over the top and looks like it was embarasing for individuals that where duped into thinking they were making a legit purchase. Next time, be patient, diplomatic and determined to find the real culprit at the expence of only that person.

I agree, going around to different sites and accusing the owners of stealing images from his site is, among other things, not very smart, expecially when the threatens them with a law suit.

I have been thinking about this since this surfaced and here is what I have come up with.

1: The OP acusses site owners of theft and threatens legal action.
2: The site owner has purchased these items and then sues the OP for libel.
3: Whether or not these items were purchased from the OP or not, his statements of the theft are false and the OP is legally liable for damages.
4: The OP is correct (in some cases) and the owners refuse to stop using the images. The OP then spends who knows how much in lawyer fees to get said images removed from unauthorized sites.
5: After who knows how much money and time the site owner removes said images IF it is proven they are in fact the property of the OP and that the site owner has infact "stolen" them.

Or

The OP politely asks for his images to be removed and the site owner agrees.

I guess my point is this, jumping all over someone on their site and accusing them of theft probably is not the best way to get things done. Especially when 1: You then want them to help you find who was distributiing said images & 2: You dont offer any proof that you are the creator of said images. Simply having them on your site does not prove you created them, in the legal sense.

Except for that hotlinking issue, of course....

As stated in the begining of this thread. That was not viewed by anyone other than the author of this thread. The links provided had no visible hot links.

If hotlinking was the issue there would be no reason for this thread or any of the other things the OP did in his "quest" as he could have fixed that issue in about 2 minutes.

Hotlinking is an ethical issue not a legal one if I am not mistaken.

Hotlinking could fall under 'theft of services' with bandwidth & server resources being the services in question.

Good point.

There was a small team of 5 PC's in Texas that did a DOSS attack my site for 2 1/2 months. (members of my site)

I jumped on a plane, flew to their house and beat on their door with a bat looking for justice.

Be glad trackpads uses the law and protocol.

/me goes back to php

All I am saying is, as my grandmother used to say, "You can catch more flies with sugar than vinagar."

lmfao well that is taking it a little to far. Images and ddos are 2 different things. As for flying to there house how did you know where they were? Cause a ip is only going to give you a round about location unless there using a proxy.

I hear ya.
A good slap in the face wakes people up too.


@DementedMindz
It's very easy to find location of where people live. They were also a member of my site for few months.

im over the age of 16 and you dont serious expect me to believe that do ya ?
And if you did do it then lets say u was stupid.Events could of turned the other way and you could have been the one suffering the beating and in a strange place away from people you know.

Then again aint hard to batter school kids is it as they the ones who mainly do these Dos Attacks :)

Lighten up Zachariah im joking :L

Trackpads just so you know, if you implemented a .htaccess or some sort of hot link protection none of your images load now. just thought you'd like to know that.

mholtum, I removed your website from thsi thread but if you want to keep arguing over it then please, I will keep talking about you. Not only did you copy the images off of my site (or someone supposedly sold them to you) you copied some of my add banners (the "Got Awards?" one) and even the text for the actual awards... ALL FROM MY SITE!!!

Get the hell out of here. You dont have a leg to stand on so stop now. I apologized to you for the actions I took but next ime dont copy, its that simple.

Gary, your a genious. Really? Hotlinkiing protection? What an amazing idea.... I had it but now that I was looking it wasnt turned off I had ignorantly overwritten the htaccess for that entire directory when I installed VBSEO. Is it my fault for not protecting the page? Yeah but is is still illegal to copy someones work and pass it off as your own? HELL YES.

What about people downloading hacks from this site and reposting else where as their own? They werent protected where they? You seriously need to look up Copyright in the dictionary. Otherwise all those lawyers for the movie industry must be wrong.

If you would not have copied the images or the award text then there wouldnt have been a problem. And yes, look it up, its a legal isssue.

I copied the images and text now :). Its just funny thats this is all over award images I could see you getting pissed if it was your theme. But hey good luck with your hotlinking problem.

Hmm they were stupid enough to post there address?