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Blaine0002 07-05-2006 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrCh_Jeff
It isn't showing up for me at all.I have vB3.5.4 and I installed all files and edited template correctly.Am I missing something?

Did you upload the product file?

Blaine0002 07-05-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurzo
Are there plans for an upgrade soon? If so when and what would be involved?

I do not want to install this if there is nothing else coming down the road...


As for next upgrade, just a few new features including ibproarcade, nothing too MAJOR though.

GrCh_Jeff 07-05-2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaine0002
Did you upload the product file?

Everything is uploaded and triple checked it all.

armstrong 07-05-2006 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrCh_Jeff
It isn't showing up for me at all.I have vB3.5.4 and I installed all files and edited template correctly.Am I missing something?

Are you using postbit or postbit_legacy? You should edit both templates just to be sure.

Blaine0002 07-06-2006 01:39 AM

also please click install!

Armstrong did you test out the ibproarcade integration?

toolblast 07-06-2006 02:16 AM

I love the idea Blaine, especially love the idea of making it simple.

You definately hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a system without all the bells and whistles of those "other" hacks. And you're right, people DO want a point system that just does that... counts points lol.

I would love to see someone use this great system to create some sort of File Download Store. I know many vb.org users have requested this in the other point hack threads. Possibly integrate it with one of the existing file managing hacks and make it so that users can collect points and then buy downloadable files with those points. (ex: ebooks).

If you can do this, I'd definately like to hear from you! PM me!

MillerLight 07-06-2006 02:23 AM

ay ideas?

The following error occurred when attempting to evaluate this template:

Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_ENCAPSED_AND_WHITESPACE, expecting T_STRING or T_VARIABLE or T_NUM_STRING in /home/catfish4/public_html/forums/includes/adminfunctions_template.php(3537) : eval()'d code on line 84

This is likely caused by a malformed conditional statement. It is highly recommended that you fix this error before continuing, but you may continue as-is if you wish.

MillerLight 07-06-2006 02:30 AM

My admincp has a string of numbers after it, this is probably it? Think?

toolblast 07-06-2006 02:57 AM

When installing the hack your admincp needs to be at the location

www.yoursite.com/admincp

Or if your forum is in a subfolder: www.yoursite.com/forum/admincp

Your admincp folder can't be named /admincp123456 while installing because you'll get that error.

MillerLight 07-06-2006 03:01 AM

Can you change the name of the folder, and not break the forum. Once logged in, change the folder name to admincp, then rebame it bacdk to what it was?

Of course, this would be thru FTP

toolblast 07-06-2006 04:10 AM

Change it back to /admincp

Install the hack

Then change it to whatever new name you want after you've installed.

armstrong 07-06-2006 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaine0002
Armstrong did you test out the ibproarcade integration?

Will upgrade and test today.

What if I also wanted to install vbookie? If I change the money row (in admincp/icash) to vbookie_cash, what will happen to the data already stored under the money row? Would it be better to somehow tell vbookie to use 'money' in place of 'vbookie_cash'?

armstrong 07-06-2006 10:33 AM

Ok, I tried it, with mixed results. I don't know if its because of my internet connection (somewhat sporadic today), but my funds were not decremented by the specified "Costs per Play", even during the one time the jackpot was incremented as expected (other times I played the jackpot didn't move at all).

I'm using all integer numbers in my icash, while ibproarcade uses fractional values. Could this have something to do with it?

Blaine0002 07-06-2006 11:12 AM

thanks for the reply tool blast

I think you will probably need your admincp to remain as admincp since i think the admin file calls files in the admincp directory. maybe open and edit the file and change all instances to what you want them to be??

Armstrong i will route this thru mrzeropage and see what he says :)

and miller, i have never seen any errors like that, try what i said above.

Emmy2 07-06-2006 12:05 PM

Blaine, if I'm not running IbProarcade will it still work if I do the upgrade for this? Are there any other changes besides integrating IbProarcade?

Emmy2 07-06-2006 12:20 PM

Blaine, me again, with another idea, hope you don't mind. The appeal of your points system is its simplicity...that is, we aren't uploading script for a whole bunch of features we don't use or want. Would it be a good idea then to keep the main script as clean as possible (that is, features that all forums use, like replying to posts, reading threads, voting in polls etc.) and create separate add-on scripts for features like ibProarcarde? That way people installing this can choose from the list of add-ons what they want for their forum and the basic script is kept simple and clean and relevant to everyone.

What think? Because, for example, like I mentioned earlier I would like an add-on for points for "thanking" posts...but not everyone has the Thank You hack on their forum, so it might be best to keep it all separate from the main script.

Don't know if any of that made sense, hope so.

Emmy2 07-06-2006 12:36 PM

tiptoeing in.....me again! :D

Here's another idea: Is there some way to give points for clicking on different things in the forum that the admin can set up themselves? (so you don't have to create separate scripts?)

In other words, a place in the ICash admin panel where I could simply enter a url and the number of points for clicking on it?

Example, points for clicking on the url to my chatroom (so members would get points for using chat) would look something like this in the admin panel:

Earn Points for Visiting Url: http://mysite.com/forums/chat/flashchat.php
Points Earned Per Click: 10

This could also apply to the Thank You hack, could it not? The full url to that is something like:

http://mysite.com/forums/showthread....hanks&p=453480

but could it be set up so it ignores the post number and rewards for...

http://mysite.com/forums/showthread.php?do=post_thanks

Long story short, if there is some way to include urls in the admin panel that the ADMIN could set up themselves for point-giving. A sort of generic script that could be used in various situations so the admin could customize what they want to give points for.

Just an idea from my overactive imagination. :D

armstrong 07-06-2006 01:15 PM

Same here - I like icash for its simplicity. In that case, what basic functions do forums universally need? IMHO, the following:
1. points per thread
2. points per post
3. points per referral
4. points transfers (also called a donation feature, used for members to pay each other instead of routing everything to the forum admin)
5. magic transfers (for admin and mods to adjust users' points without affecting his own balance)
6. transfers log (who gave what to whom, when and how much; this is so admins have something to work with in case of disputes)

icash already has 1,2&3 above; I hope blaine can include 4,5,&6. Everything else (including the ipb integration that I can use) is just fluff, and I would rather not have them than see icash get bloated. I rather like Emmy's suggestion of having addons that we can pick and choose from.

GrCh_Jeff 07-06-2006 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armstrong
Are you using postbit or postbit_legacy? You should edit both templates just to be sure.

I added to both.Still nothing.I will re-install and let you know what happens.Thanks.

Emmy2 07-06-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armstrong
Same here - I like icash for its simplicity. In that case, what basic functions do forums universally need? IMHO, the following:
1. points per thread
2. points per post
3. points per referral
4. points transfers (also called a donation feature, used for members to pay each other instead of routing everything to the forum admin)
5. magic transfers (for admin and mods to adjust users' points without affecting his own balance)
6. transfers log (who gave what to whom, when and how much; this is so admins have something to work with in case of disputes)

icash already has 1,2&3 above; I hope blaine can include 4,5,&6. Everything else (including the ipb integration that I can use) is just fluff, and I would rather not have them than see icash get bloated. I rather like Emmy's suggestion of having addons that we can pick and choose from.

The basic script does more than 1,2,3 in your list. Here is the current list as it appears in Admin CP:

1. Points per character posted...amount of points a user gets for each character posted in their post (would like to see this integrated with the replies and new threads points, not separated in that you choose one or the other. In other words, a base amount for adding a post, then additional points based on the LENGTH of that post).

2. Points per new thread started

3. Points per reply

4. Points on registration

5. Points per referral

6. Donate to members (Admins giving members points)

--------------------

Other things I'd like to see in the BASIC (for everyone) script are:

7. Points for reading threads

8. Points for creating a poll

9. Points for voting in a poll

10. Points for each week someone is a member of your forum (as long as they have logged in that week). This rewards "loyalty" and re-visits.

--------------------

Then I would like a feature where Admins could customize the points by adding urls that when members click they get points for. Examples:

a. Visiting the Chatroom url

b. Clicking the "thank you for this post" link

This way it's unique to each forum and you aren't creating separate scripts for those items if you don't run them on your forum.

---------------------

Finally, I would like to see Add-ons for more complex features not coverable by the simple "points for clicking url" feature above, and that not all forums use (these would require separate installations). Examples:

i. Add-on for IbProarcade

ii. Add-on for Inferno Quiz (points for creating quiz, taking quiz)


That would be my fantasy dream setup. :p

toolblast 07-06-2006 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmy2
Then I would like a feature where Admins could customize the points by adding urls that when members click they get points for. Examples:

a. Visiting the Chatroom url

b. Clicking the "thank you for this post" link

This way it's unique to each forum and you aren't creating separate scripts for those items if you don't run them on your forum.


Hey thats a GREAT idea. I really like the whole "custom point urls" idea where admins can add something onto the beginning of their URLS so that when the user clicks the link, it gives them points, and then redirects them to the proper url... that would be a pretty useful thing I think.

armstrong 07-06-2006 10:14 PM

Wouldn't it be easy to abuse points for reading threads, visiting the Chatroom url, and clicking on links? The old ucash had this feature, which I turned off right quick, because people kept amassing large number of points simply by placing point-earning URLs on autofurf programs. To keep people from doing this, you would have to track who has already visited which URL, which would quickly become unrealistic except in really low-activity boards.

MillerLight 07-07-2006 12:25 AM

hmmm. still no luck. Seems to be an issue with the template itself when adding

$vboptions['icashn']: $member[money]

Blaine0002 07-07-2006 12:43 AM

Wow, active thread today! (zoos are a terrble place to be, all the little kids and how they treat the animals :( ) but anyways, everything seems to be working fine on both my 3.6.0 and 3.5.4 forums, no problems at all. I will probably do like you said, make a complete basic system which will allow users to make their own addons and me myself make addons. It sounds like a good plan to me :) its personally why i dont use vbbux and stuff, just so much stuff i dont need.

So as for updates i will try to get them out as soon as i can while maintaining my jobs of WoW and my website, also being a real person (im learning!) so i can and wont promise a timeframe in which updates will be released, all i can say is. THEY WILL :)

Blaine0002 07-07-2006 02:02 AM

whoops miller, i really screwed up on that one :) should be working now!

Blaine0002 07-07-2006 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrCh_Jeff
It isn't showing up for me at all.I have vB3.5.4 and I installed all files and edited template correctly.Am I missing something?

oh and jeff, redownload it. it should be working now :)

MillerLight 07-07-2006 10:14 PM

Blaine,

What was causing the problems?

Thanks...

Blaine0002 07-07-2006 11:25 PM

lol it was the 's in
$vboptions['icashn']

armstrong 07-08-2006 02:07 AM

I'm thinking of installing vbookie. How would that work, since I already have icash installed?

Blaine0002 07-08-2006 02:54 AM

as of right now i still need to make a table point converter.

For example, if you have points in your 'money' table (default for icash) and you want to use vbookie, you change where the points go to, but you dont retain your current points. What i need to do is make somthing so that it will add what you have, to what you are converting to.

See what im saying?

armstrong 07-08-2006 03:25 AM

what if I do this:
1. pause the forum
2. go to cpanel->phpmyadmin and rename the money field to 'vbookie_cash'
3. change icash settings (admincp->icash->'money row') to 'vbookie_cash'
4. install vbookie
5. activate forum

Unless I'm missing something, this should work, right?

chkdgate 07-08-2006 05:40 AM

Blaine, you've created an awesome monster here. I remember when you first posted this thread and I was quite excited that there was an easier point system out there. Now, I have to admit that I currently use vbux on my forum but like many other users on here have mentioned before, it is way too "feature rich." One of the few features that I do like is its banking system which would be a great little add-on in ICash those who "choose" to intergrate it to their site. What looks extremely promising to me is the possibility for custom shops. That is what's really going to make this hack reach the top of its game. The only problem I have is if I uninstall vbux and install ICash, do I have to revert the templates? That would really suck if I did, because they are heavily modded with other hacks. I'm going to continue to support this hack and I commend you for your efforts.

Blaine0002 07-08-2006 12:41 PM

Yes armstrong that should work :) thanks for the info!
but when you remove icash make sure to rename it back or you will get an error.

@chkdgate
what do you mean revert them? there is only 1 template edit for icash right now.

Im not sure how many template edits vbbux has but you might want to undo them :)
and yes i will be making a bank system.

chkdgate 07-08-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaine0002
and yes i will be making a bank system.

Awesome!

What I mean by "reverting" is yes, undoing them. I have other mods in those templates which took some time to do so I'm just about ready to install ICash but now I also have to reinstall my other mods as well.

chkdgate 07-08-2006 04:58 PM

Man I love this hack! *clicks install* bigtime!

Mr.D 07-08-2006 05:10 PM

Thanks a lot for this its simple and great.

MillerLight 07-08-2006 08:36 PM

Tie this into the contest script, that would be great. Members would be charged X Money to enter a contest. In order to get Money, you have to participate.

armstrong 07-09-2006 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaine0002
Yes armstrong that should work :) thanks for the info!
but when you remove icash make sure to rename it back or you will get an error.

What do you mean "remove icash"? I don't intend to remove it (its great!), merely add vbookie, which I'm not even sure of yet.

Blaine, it might be time to start thinking about how to number your updates. We've been on v1.0.0 since day 1, even with all the new features you installed. Just a suggestion; it might be for the best in the long run.

armstrong 07-09-2006 09:07 AM

I installed the updated version, and the "Donation and point giving via donation page and postbit!" seems to work as expected. However, we need some sort of mechanism to notify the parties (probably via PM) of the transaction. As well an audit trail so that admin and mods have something to rely on in case of dispute.

Thanks Blaine for all your hard work! This hack is indeed shaping up to be one of my favorites.

Blaine0002 07-09-2006 01:24 PM

thanks! i havent made any actual "updates" yet because it starts to screw with the code, and IMO its just too much work to change a few simple numbers :)

PMing a user would be an easy thing to add, will do.


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