You're giving that user a full blog which is in fact a full website with content management system.

That cannot be done in 1 table.

Once the blog is there you even could have a seperate usermanagement for the blog if you want other people to join the blog but not the site.

I've got vBJournal installed as a Blog, but users don't like it so much.
A Wordpress integration would be the best thing :up: .

What I would appreciate very much:

- total integration in vB with same login information
- ability to choose from a list of designs / templates which the admin could add
- possibility to set up subdomains automatically for each Wordpress-Blog which leads directly to the user's blog. e.g. username.forumname.com But users should be able to specify their subdomain themselves.

If there are 10 tables for each blog would be added, isn't there a maximum limit?

Andreas

just out of curiosity

lets say 10 members had their blog with me.....that means extra 100 table....and suppose they are active blogs......like adding a couple of pages per day........

how big will be my database.........now i have 130 MB db..how big will it be then?

i imagin some where about extra 100 MB......or am i wrong?

not really a base install database size of wordpress is about 300 Kb

a wp site in base form is about 2Mb

there are theoretical limits to how many tables you can define but I can summarize them by saying that the actual limits will depend mostly on what type of operating system you have and how big your disks are. I have never heard of any one needing more tables than they could create. mysql stores tables as files.

I would assume that a few thousand tables wouldn't be too many for most modern hard drives to handle. How many were you worried about?

If your intent is to create a full blown blog farm with this (100's of users and more) I would advice to contact me to make a custom version and be prepared to invest in some major hardware and run the thing on a mysql farm or on Oracle

Just a theoretically question: In the beginning you'll never know if an new feature gets lot of attention or not, so just a 'normal' integration into vB would be fine. But in case it turns into an hurricane and 100s of users apply for it, would it be possible to change to a mysql farm later?

Another feature question: will it easily be possible to import vBJournal articles?

Andreas

Could this not work from one set of tables? I was thinking the addition of a userid or siteid columns to each table so the data could be 'per site' but still within the realms of managability. This way would also make changes across all sites easier, and in addition it would make permissions handling from vBulletin easier.

Obviously, I dont know exactly whats involved with the above, I'm sure its a fair amount of slog...but I'm thinking that once you've gone the full distance on your current path, it may have been less work going the alternate way I mention.

i dont have intentions of making a blog farm anyway....it would be too hard to maintain for me....

my idea is that some members are really creative....and i would give them the space to express their idea and work......so i had about 5-10 blogs in mind....this would bond members more with websites....

there are many free offers for creating blog's out now...we will never be able to compete with that.....besides most of vbulletin are on shared servers while creating a farm needs dedicated ones...

thanks for the info

journalistID and userid are linked so in theory it would be possible to write a migration script.

That was indeed also my first architecture but the impact on wordpress in that case is rather high and it would require several changes to wordpress. Moreover that creates an installation where there can no longer be an easy upgrade to future versions of wordpress.

the vbulletin part is slightly easier but the wordpress part becomes a drag in creation and maintainability.

Moreover I would bump into the same issues as wordpress MU and would have to give up the flexible management and admin has on his own blog.

There is still a long way to go to make this a full featured thing.

It might even be better to write a blog system from scratch with the features of a true blog in vbulletin itself.

Time will tell and I'll certainly let you know.

Well,

Thanks for your dedication to it in any case... keep up the good work!

you mean same as

oh wow

The screenshots are indeed nice.

It does have a lot more features than vbjournal currently has.

Falls short of what wordpress has.

aaah what would live be without choices:) If I start writing for myself I'll get in direct competition with vbjournal and wordpress is flexible and I like it as a blog tool.

Vbulletin could use a major blog tool. Hell of a coding job to write it all.

You all have the floor, talk to me and together we'll figure it out.

Yes YEs Yes I would be interested for both my sites

I'm with you all the way sweetie :bunny:

what ever you chose ...i am in.........

was just interested on how much the invision blog was taking from the DB and wether it has its own db or was it integrated...have not read the discription though......i must read a bit...lol

I wonder ...

Our Board is very specific and the users are very creative and many of them try to start their own blog. So why are they doing it? I am quite sure, that they are looking for something of their own. They want to create something by themselves and especially for themselves.
That's the way it is and I couldn't stop them, but my website looses their traffic. Most of those users are - how could it be ;) - very important to the board and their knowledge is in many ways incomparable.

So what I - and I think the rest of you too - really need is a blog system, which is easy to handle and gives the users all the freedom and the possibillities they are looking for.

@stonyarc
I think you are going to far with your mod.
Make it in several steps.
1. only users in a special second usergroup can write blogs.
2. the user joins this open usergroup
3. the admin of the board needs a button to start the process of creating the blog for these users - more comfortable it works automatic by accepting the user in the usergroup
3. the passwords and usernames should be identical and use the DB of the board
4. the search engine of the board should integrate the blogs

This concept doesn't need a full integration in the admincp and doesn't care about the updates of the single users wordpress versions. That's their problem. You can offer help, but I don't think, that many of them will need it.


Thanks for listening and a beer to your health if it's all bullshit I wrote. :cool:

The process is currently already working as you describe it but glad to see it confirmed. (php installer I wrote for wordpress)

I just want it to be manageable.

100 blogs means 1000 tables in some cases that will kill your server.

Bringing the function within vbulletin can solve that partially.

I strongly agree with peterle1. That's just the thing I'd need too.
Our board is about Trekking and Outdooractivity and users like to report about their adventures and trips. vBJurnal which is currently installed doesn't meet their needs for having something for their own. One told me he couldn't write anything in vbJournal (I called it 'Blog'), which he couldn't specify at the open discussion forum at my board.

Like peterle1 says, it's also an issue about keeping them in your forum. So I would add point #6 (OT @ peterle1: hast du gesehen, dass du Ziffer 3 doppelt verwendet hast?):

6. postcount in the forum should be increased whenever a user writes an entry in his wordpress-blog or gets a comment.

Andreas

[Karlsson]
Das st?rt keinen gro?en Geist. :cool:
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I think this depends on the kind of mood, in which the users are. I my case many of them don't like the posting counter, but none of them wants us, to turn it off. :knockedout:
So this is one point, but I don't think it is to important - at least for me. ;)

As a matter of fact I don't like killed servers and I have no idea about the programming background this mod will need, but if you need any help cry it out, because I know, where to get the beer. :cool:

Allright, if you will realy finish the job and bridge wordpress to vb as you are planning it, then I will be glad to offer up to 100$ per year for a working and living mod. :)

Thanks for all, even if you go down on the last two meters. :bunny:

[Karlsson]
Ein gerade richtig d i c k e r Fehler... ?h Karlsson. :cool:
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Same with me. But there should be the possibilty at least, maybe to turn it on and off again.


And I'll join you with this!

Andreas

You people know how to motivate me :cool:

Great AS LONG AS the whole installation runs off one core installation. It would be nuts to have to upgrade 500 instances of WordPress.

on file level this is already covered.

I have written a script that copies the files from a source directory.

Each install is a seperate instance but you can manage it from admincp by overwriting the instance. (configuration logic still to create)

Sorry, I can't afford to pay, but I'l sure eager to lend moral support, if that counts for anything ;)

1000 tables?? WOW... my host would probably cancel my account! lol

You have been cheering so that must count for something :D

My two cents say a mod of this nature needs to be something custom written for vBulletin and not something integrated into vBulletin.

I think the concept here is a good one and it is something I've wanted for a while. I think a product that is written specifically for vBulletin is where the money is. I'd be willing to pay for a license...

Think of it along this lines.

0-25 users free
25 - 250 29.99
250 - 1000 49.99
1000+ 99.99

I'd pay it as would any vBulletin admin. Think about how much we already pay for vBulletin.

Just my two cents.

uh don't say any vB admin. I repeat... some of us can't afford to pay for hacks

You should know that I sometimes get 1 EUR donation and even that makes me happy as I know they have taken the effort to give something for the work.

And even the enthousiasm of Ohiosweetheart for this new product is enough to put a smile on my face.

aww thank you darlin. It's my pleasure, because I know that this product you're creating is going to draw quite a few new members. I'm going to make it a feature in our paid subscription packages. If I sell any of those, the very first one gets donated to you! ;)

I'm not saying I wouldn't or haven't donated... when I've had a few extra $ here and there, I've done so, and will again, when I can

Bumping to keep this thread visible !

Just one dumb question: Why don't you use http://www.lifetype.net/?

I don't know much about the available massive user blog soft, but I am learning. :banana:

I'd absolutely be willing to pay for this.

I'd hope that support offerings would be present.

because he's working on integrating the blog hack into the individual vB forum, being able to 'tweak' it from the acp, etc. Not just linking to it from the forum.

Plus... I wouldn't use Life Type right now anyway, as you can't even see the style templates. It says the page is under construction but you can d/l them at SourceForge... but they're not viewable. And there's only 60 templates. Wordpress has hundreds.

Sorry but I'm holding out for this one ;)

I'll give it a full feature test run to check if it solves any of the issue I'm having now

looking forward to this , and u can add me to the paid users list ;) if and when it comes

I would be very interested in this functionality.

I just wonder how themes and such would be uploaded, or would there only be a certain number of themes to choose from?

There ^ is an excellent question.

I'm hoping that we'll be able to use any theme that is available to/created for Wordpress.
But indeed, how and where would they be uploaded/installed?

As it stands now I'm creating one source folder.

From there the push of a plugin or template is possible. This isn't the easiest of applications to make so give me some time to figure it all out.

I just auto installed 23 blogs on my testserver in about 6 minutes

so the installations are ok but the user synch and most of all the maintenance (uploading new versions without dropping configs, new templates, ....) that's my own personal hell at this point and that includes password changes moreover WP can add users too. So I need to autoconfig a lot on installation.

Still a lot to do on this one

take your time babe, we'll wait ;)

Hooah! I am also very interested with this dev' (and as "some" of other users here, would be ready to pay some extra for it), as I was looking for some serious blogging integration with VB.
Thanks for the link to lifetype by the way, I was looking for an opensource blog hosting solution too :}. I am not very concerned with the theming aspect (may integrate it myself with my website -- using subdreamer w/ VB), but by all the coding stuff of course :p.

Thanks for taking the time to develop that Stonyarc :humble: .