ZT is one of the most talented coders I know, super nice guy and for his age he has generated a truly amazing body of work. I am definitely glad to call him a friend.

_V

I like debates, but when people are debating over you it feels weird, but who knows. Sorry if I wasn't supposed to bump this thread, oh well.

Did I leave? For a while yes, but I like popping back when it's least expected. (Keep your eyes open...)

Can I support my modifications? Unfortunately not (note the difference between "can't" and "won't").

Thanks for everyones input though :)

Oh and, this isn't a ghost nexialys ;)

- Zero Tolerance

Your still alive :p

Lucky for you.. I can't get rid of him lol

:p *runs away*

hey, it's not my birthday, why in hell are you here today ?!...

:p :p :p :p :p

I totally agree. Anyone can write, it is the follow through that counts. That is where he is still a kid.

Actually, that's the big misconception. Releasing a modification, free nonetheless, does not entitle the users to support of any kind. Any support you do receive is out of the kidness of the author's heart, not out of obligation.

I really like that the vBorg staff added a checkbox when posting a modification stating whether or not the modification was supported or not. It's just a shame none of the users pay attention to it.

I support my modifications as well as I can. However, I'm not going to buckle down for hours and try to find out why 1 or 2 people are having compatibility issues. For that level of support, the hack would almost have to be commercial.

Like I said above, the majority of authors are willing to assist to a reasonable extent, it's just that unfortunately many of the users here believe hack authors are here at their disposal to be called upon on a whim.

Also, hacks grow unsupported over time. Generally, the best time to get support for a hack is within the first few weeks it's been released. After that, things generally tend to calm down and problems more or less plateau. When users later on start to randomly discover/install the hack and have problems, the author has by that time either started developing/supporting a newer hack or sort of faded off to do other things, which is to be expected.

I can speak for all the authors here, but I know when I first develop a hack I'm extremely intimate with it's workings, hooks, etc. However, over time and especially once I've started working with newer hacks I slowly become less intimate with what I did with the previous hacks and that makes supporting them hard. Especially if they're hacks I no longer us on my own forums.

Authors need to be cut slack, too.

What people don't seem to realise is that ZT spends hours supporting his paid hacks.

He has released more hacks than just about anyone else on vb.org - and has released more popular ones than anyone else (most HOTMs) So it's impossible for him to support them.

At the end of the day, you are geting something for FREE, to also expect the authors time for free, and then actually have a go at them when they can't give you it? Thats just plain rude.

How about we come to your house, and force you to fix something you gave us as a present for hours every day? Somehow i doubt you would be up for that.

Exactly how does not having enough time to support things you give people for free make you "still a kid"? I can show you hundreds of coders who do the same thing. Would you prefer it if he just didnt release free hacks at all?

If anyone can write, go code RPG Inferno. I *DARE* you.

Until you can code the things he can, and release the amount he has, keep your amateurish observations to yourself.

I haven't seen one coder in here who releases the same amount and quality of products as ZT critisice his support policy. Not a single one. It's not coincidence that the people who ARE doing it have no idea what it entails.

- Iain "Decado" Kidd

Totally agree, although I might dispute this line ;)


:D

*tuts*

Jealousy is unbecoming of you Paul!

XD

I totally appreciate ZT and have supported him in the past by buying his RPG.

People should layoff him. Learn to fix the issues yourself and help the community as a whole if it is something that is so important to you.

Really now, so the tons of support he gives to his paid customer, the support offered here on his free versions, and then the time he puts into writing awsome paid, custom, and free stuff for release isn't enough. Now he should give up his life to supporting free versions round the clock to for you to feel he's giving things follow through. I have NEVER had a problem with ZT giving me support on anything I have of his custom or free. I think you would find ALOT of people that have had ZT personally work on not only his hacks but help people with a multitude of issues from their own or other people's work. I suggest you do not know this man or his work very well.

And "anyone can write"? Hardly. It took serveral tries with attempting to get a coder here to write a simple sorting quiz for me. Several weeks and 3 different coders later, ZT delivered a product quickly that has performed as it was requested AND he has supported it without problem (as all of my custom hacks). I might add that he did that while trying to get his company's RPG ready for release. I can hardly say that I would have gotten that kind of help from about anyone else I have come across in the vbulletin community in the past three years.


Kallem

-customer of IT for 3 years

ZT's great - love his Inferno Tech hacks/mods!

:cool:

how wonderful... wanna bump any other 6-month old threads? :rolleyes:

that's not that bad, most of the oldest threads get bumped once in a while... yesterday was a 4 years old one... people are not aware of history.

<rant>
If you don't want old threads bumped then crop out posts over x amount of days. A lot of bumped topics come from searches within vB or from google, yahoo, etc. You can't get all anal about thread bumping on a freaking message board.

Or I guess you could close the thread down if there hasn't been a post in a certain amount of time. But that's just dumb, imo. A discussion board is for just that. Discussions. Old or new, if they're accessible, someone is going to access it. Period.
</rant>

there is a lot of hacks related to older threads... even from the guys up there... no matter, they want them to be unlocked.. lol

Some of the posts in this thread are ridiculous. He still is working with vBulletin - just on a higher level. It takes a lot more commitment than to support free mods here.

Be happy for him! :)

Jelsoft is waiting he turn 20 to hire him I think :P

If he did already they should.

edit: on the old threads topic, this is a GREAT mod to help with that

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=131350

Zero is the oracle in the Matrix. He knows everything.

Nicely put SirAdrian. :up:

Who's Zero Tolerance btw?

It is where in schools, if you bring a gun, they kick you out for some strange reason...

Thanks Mike.

I thought it was some guy named scot that has won motm 4 times and creator of the shoutbox hack. thanks for clearing that one up. :up:

Glad to clear the confusion.

Crap thanks for the heads up I need to get my gun out of my locker. LMFAO :D

I always stored mine in a friend's locker (he didn't use it). This way if it was discovered I wouldn't have to take the rap for it. ;)

Must not have been a good friend, eh?

Pawn is a better word. ;) While I never really brought a gun in to the school I did have a habit of storing things in other peoples lockers if the need presented itself. :D

I did bring a gun to school once because I had forgotten to take it out of the car when I came home the night before. I didn't realize this until the end of the day and when I did I made sure to get out of that school zone as quickly as possible (for people not in the USA: Having a firearm within 300 feet of a school zone is a felony. In fact doing just about anything within 300 feet of a school zone is. ;)).

I had a couple of friends who would bring their shotguns and rifles to school all of the time during the hunting seasons. They used to come school after spending a few hours in the woods before hand...if they killed anything they would skip but otherwise they'd just load up the truck (with the guns in a lock box) and come directly to class.

Heh I remember bringing a pocket knife to school in the 4th grade and not begin able to figure out why it wasn't allowed. As far as I was concerned "sharping my pencil" and "never knowing when I might need it" were valid reasons for carrying it at all times (just like the old man ;)). My dad came in and cleaned that whole mess up for me, they even gave me my pocket knife back and let me keep it for the rest of the day with a stern reminder that I should leave it at home on school days.

School system is nuts these days...

The threads confirm the reason why guns shouldnt be easily availabe :)

We dont have a big gun problem in the UK, there are problems but not like you guys have :eek:

lol.


UK's gun ban is ridiculous.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2640817.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm

"A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned."

This is from your STATE SANCTIONED news media.

Here you'll see US and UK crime rates compared:

http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice...atistics35.htm

You'll notice that the UK's is higher. You'll also notice Switzerland has a lower crime rate than both, and they also have this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland

All of this is irrelevant though, as found by the study by the CDC, that I like below.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm

You are obviously ignorant. The CDC, a pro-gun control group found that:

"The Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes."

Meaning, more or less, that guns have little to do with violence from country to country and it is more related to the culture of the residents.

More food for thought:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...=2008801060602
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st176/
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=42167

All your gun laws do is disarm law abiding citizens and leave them unable to protect themselves from people who wish to hurt them. What do you have to fear from a law abiding citizen? Why are you scared of your fellow man being armed?

Ziki is good too... he have only 15 years.. and I am 15 years... but i work with vbulletin 3 months and i am learning coding vb this month .. I will coding more in the future

You're kidding me right? Step into any city surburb and you'll find it everywhere. I know two people who have been mugged at gunpoint, and I can recall several occasions last year when people (that I don't know) were shot (a few killed). Just because every single gun crime isn't reported these days, doesn't mean it's not rife.

you're right! crazy world! I'm gonna get me one... ;)

Dean, compare gun crime per head in the UK to gun crime per head in the US.

Over here if someone is shot and killed, its headline news. Over there chances are no one outside of that persons street ever knows it happened :P

I'm not good.My knowledge of PHP is maybe 5%.

That's not true at all. You don't hear about all shootings and stabbings in the UK tabloids.

stabbingd no... but when someone gets shot, it tends to make the papers :)

Well it does in scotand, maybe not in england.

Anyway, i refer you to the gun crime per head statistic, and more importantly, i refer you to the statistic of under 20s killed by guns in each country :)

in 1998 10 children or teens died EVERY DAY via firearms. over 3700 that year, and that was DOWN 4 per cent on the year before.

Firearms injuries are one of the TOP TEN causes of death in the US.

In the UK its not even in the top 100. I'd be surprised if it was in the top 1,000.

Homicide rate in the UK in 2000 is 1.4 per 100,000, US is 5.5 also in 2000, thats almost 5 times more, and gun homocide rate is even worse!

Gun homicide rate in scotland (couldnt find any UK figures) in 2002 was 0.06 per 100,000. In the US in 2001 (couldnt find 2002 figures)it was 3.98. In other words, over SIXTY TIMES more. Think on that, in a country where guns are legal, 60 people are killed with a gun for every one person in a country where they aren't.

its basic logic. You give people guns, they'll kill each other with them. People will kill themselves with them. Kids will accidentally shoot themselves and each other with them. Guns make it EASY. There is NO other way of killing someone that is as easy as using a gun. Why make it easier for people to kill each other? it's stupid.

Why are you guys talking about stabbings ?
I thought this thread was about ZT...lol

and you tell me know when 95% of my installed hacks are yours!?!?! :eek:

I glad I know this now was thinking of buying one of your item on your site this help me to decide better .