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Qwest 12-02-2005 04:17 PM

Waiting Patiently Myself

Sculli 12-03-2005 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan
It's not going to get coded over night guys, it takes time to code things.

It would just be nice to know whether the hand-off to the new coder team worked out. I am a bit hesitant to install uCash on my 3.5.1 and get members all worked up, just to have to take it down because there will be no way to spend the points.

I realize this is a volunteer effort (though personally I would have no problem to pay or donate to a working product), and I am not asking for a working uShop right now, this minute, but a word or two from the new team would be nice if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Revan 12-03-2005 10:07 AM

The beta board has been restored, the new coders have yet to meet and talk things out.
We have not been granted CVS access as of yet.
The beta board is abit outdated (RC2) so it needs to be updated as well.
We need to bug Zak into installing the bug tracker, because IMO reporting bugs in threads is an unprofessional way of doing it when there's better options.

Now you know what I know.

Wachtmeister 12-03-2005 11:21 AM

Another question... What do i do with uCash without uShop? uCash makes no sense without a Shop, or do i misunderstand something?

I thought about using uCash on my system but everything that changes is, that users get points. They cannot do anything with those points... or?

So i uninstalled uCash. But maybe i just don't understand everything...

Dan 12-03-2005 12:39 PM

So your users can earn points and stuff like that, I have members that used to use the points system for other reasons in rpg threads and stuff like that and we had a couple members who added the items to their profile and removed the points.

(This was before itemshop hacks and rpg hacks and stuff like that)

Sculli 12-03-2005 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
The beta board has been restored, the new coders have yet to meet and talk things out.
[...]
Now you know what I know.

Thanks for the update, much appreciated.

Sooner95 12-05-2005 11:23 PM

thx for the update. It is appreciated.

slank 12-10-2005 11:13 AM

cheers for working on this one...if any help is needed give me a shout, i work with php and mysql programming on a sourceforge project atm, so if an extra input is needed i will gladly help, NB. i am also very good at breaking programs in order to fix them and find the bugs

Sco 12-12-2005 04:16 PM

Hope its all going well, been waiting for this for a while now. Will this be ready for xmas?

Lottis 12-14-2005 06:05 AM

All i want fore christmas is my uShop pls.
My uShop pls, my uShop pls.
*sings with the voice i dont have* ;)

turkforum 12-14-2005 01:56 PM

All i want fore christmas is my uShop pls.
My uShop pls, my uShop pls.
*sings with the voice i dont have* :)

[email protected] vbmenu_register("postmenu_848869", true); 12-14-2005 11:05 PM

when can we beta test it? I want a go! lol ;)

ty for update, keep em coming plz plz plz

rob30UK 12-16-2005 09:25 AM

I have a testbed ready to load this up.

For everyone enquiring about uCash: I would recommend not installing it as it is pretty buggy and has ways of cheating the system to earn $$$$$$$$$$ very easily.

I doubt the ushop developer team would use the existing code without updating it, so my guess is that ucash minor/major version will be notched up one when the shop is released..... besides which, whats the point of ucash without ushop?

Hats off to the developer team... I am able to assist with cross browser / XHTML compliance if required.

Revan 12-16-2005 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob30UK
For everyone enquiring about uCash: I would recommend not installing it as it is pretty buggy and has ways of cheating the system to earn $$$$$$$$$$ very easily.

o rly? Well feel free to contact me or another developer with proof-of-concept code or detailed instructions for these exploits.
I don't know about the old developers, but *we* take this very seriously. Although, since I don't have CVS access at the time of writing this, I can't vouch for the uC code released (nor be held responsible for any bugs/exploits in the system).

As for the version number, I assume the hack is using a version number schema like "MajorVersion.MinorVersion.Build", which I assume means such serious bugs will bump the MinorVersion by 1, and possibly a Build increment as well.

rob30UK 12-16-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
o rly? Well feel free to contact me or another developer with proof-of-concept code or detailed instructions for these exploits.
I don't know about the old developers, but *we* take this very seriously. Although, since I don't have CVS access at the time of writing this, I can't vouch for the uC code released (nor be held responsible for any bugs/exploits in the system).

As for the version number, I assume the hack is using a version number schema like "MajorVersion.MinorVersion.Build", which I assume means such serious bugs will bump the MinorVersion by 1, and possibly a Build increment as well.

I realise it will most likely be a minor version upgrade (for bug fixes) but thought that maybe ucash would receive additional functionality and it was **possible** a major version could be reached.

Regarding the exploits... they are all listed in the ucash for vb 3.5 thread in the extensions forum.... please dont make me read it all again to pull them out... lol

Lottis 12-16-2005 10:20 AM

Are there any news about this hack? *pleas dont shoot ;P *

rob30UK 12-16-2005 11:05 AM

Revan....From memory, I think one bug involved clicking preview over and over when making a post.... you got credited with each preview if I recall the post from the other thread correctly.

Regs 12-16-2005 08:27 PM

Quote:

Although, since I don't have CVS access at the time of writing this
Still?

Have the 'new' developers met yet to plan things out or code anything?

Thanks,

~Regs.

Revan 12-17-2005 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob30UK
I realise it will most likely be a minor version upgrade (for bug fixes) but thought that maybe ucash would receive additional functionality and it was **possible** a major version could be reached.

Regarding the exploits... they are all listed in the ucash for vb 3.5 thread in the extensions forum.... please dont make me read it all again to pull them out... lol

I see... I will get on reading that at a later point.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob30UK
Revan....From memory, I think one bug involved clicking preview over and over when making a post.... you got credited with each preview if I recall the post from the other thread correctly.

I see. Thanks for notifying me, I will look over the placement of the uC code before releasing the bundled version.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Still?

Have the 'new' developers met yet to plan things out or code anything?

Thanks,

~Regs.

Today we recieved a CVS snapshot. A CVS/SVN server is not yet operational (though I can setup SVN in 5 mins, as long as I have everyone on IM to give out usernames/passwords). As such, it is pointless to start any development/bugfixing because I would have to trust people to download the new files. I would much rather wait until we have a version control server setuo.
The new coders have not yet met, I have only seen PixelFx (excluding myself) and as I understood it there would be several coders.
Organising this meetup and talk is taking too long, and since Zak is too busy, I am going to try taking the responsibility. I have (yet again) requested a list of the new coders, as well as admin/ftp rights for the development forum so I can get it upgraded to the latest vB version as well as contacting the new coders to organise a meetup.

I will post again in this thread once I have more news, for now this concludes the status update.

Regs 12-17-2005 03:33 PM

Thanks Revan...

At this point, do you think it would not be better to just forget about Zachery organising this and just have a bunch of you do it on your own?

It seems that there was a lot of momentum for that before Zachery stuck his head into the discussion.

I would be willing to throw in $200USD to the pot of donations that were growing.

Thanks again Revan, it must be frustrating for you as well :mad:

~Regs.

Revan 12-17-2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Thanks Revan...

At this point, do you think it would not be better to just forget about Zachery organising this and just have a bunch of you do it on your own?

It seems that there was a lot of momentum for that before Zachery stuck his head into the discussion.

Are you suggesting mutiny? :p
It sounded to me like you wanted me to shanghai the hack and leave him out of it, which won't do because it IS still his mod now that Link backed out.
The organising of a meetup, the maintenance of the Beta board and such matters (hopefully) will be left in my care so that we can see a move on this sometime before vB10 is released.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
I would be willing to throw in $200USD to the pot of donations that were growing.

*chokes on drink*
I knew it was a good thing that I signed up for this gig...Har Har Har ;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Regs
Thanks again Revan, it must be frustrating for you as well :mad:

After the above, it certainly is :p

Xplorer4x4 12-18-2005 11:24 AM

I can;t do much coding, but I would be willing to help test it. :)

Dan 12-18-2005 11:33 AM

Currently from what I know we already have a good tester base at the dev site and everyone will be happy once it's completed for now I just suggest you wait untill the project is completed.

Just for a little update, dev site is running an RC of 3.5 and the only issue I see atm is a few errors in the code but it looks as if it mostly works. Once those bugs are worked out we should get a stable release.

Note I am not one of the coders on the project but one of the testers and this is what is going on so far with the project.

Sooner95 12-20-2005 02:13 PM

Thx for the update Dan.

Lottis 12-20-2005 03:31 PM

Thanx fore the update Dan and Revan. ;)
And good luck with this project Revan.

VBUsers 12-20-2005 04:09 PM

<--- subscribed to the thread

thanks for the info cant wait for it to come back

lairnoc 12-22-2005 07:41 AM

Cheers guyz.. keep up the good work. and for the rest to say it in game style. its done wenn its done :) lolz

Better a good hack than a quick buggy release!!!


go guyz go

kylek 12-22-2005 08:42 AM

Yes Virginia, there really is a Ushop!!!

Thanks for the updates!!

Revan 12-22-2005 10:25 AM

In case you didn't read Zak's thread, due to the fact that he's extremely busy, he gave me the responsibility of organising the meet.
So far I have been contacted by only one coder, and I know there's at least one more that has yet to contact me. It would be wrong to complain about this seeing as it's christmas time in every part of the world that celebrates it, so I think we can cut them some slack.
What I have yet to recieve is Admin and FTP access to the demo board. This board cannot go public at this time as per the vBulletin Licence Agreement. Matt pulled the plug on his licence, meaning until we can agree on a way to recieve donations, we are stuck without a public demo board.
The problem about donations is that Zak doesn't want the donations to go through his Business account, as that has nothing to do with Project uCS. And without a credit card, Paypal imposes a montly limit to the funds that can be recieved, as well as "Accept one, accept all" meaning that as soon as you accept the first payment, you automatically accept all other payments.
What Im gonna do today is create a new GMail address, and sign up to paypal using this. I will then PM the password for the email and Paypal account to him, and if he agrees we will be in business for taking donations that will go towards paying for a board licence.
As soon as that is in place, we will remove the password restrictions on this board, and you will be able to continue to post there.

As for the remaining coders, as I said I only know of one name and I will PM him after I submit this post. And when I finally have all coders' PMs in my inbox, I will get right on setting up the point of contact and mass PM them for them to verify that they will be able to show.

Im terribly sorry for the delays, I am no less annoyed by this than you are, believe me.

Xplorer4x4 12-22-2005 10:38 AM

Quote:

It would be wrong to complain about this seeing as it's christmas time in every part of the world that celebrates it, so I think we can cut them some slack.
Look's to me like there was alot more gratitude then complaints as of late. :ermm: I think you have to atribute any complaints to Matt for abandoning ship so long ago with out a simple ocasional update.

I am just curious why you need a public test board? I offered to test and you said there were pleanty of testers.

Regardless keep up the good work, not just on uShop but your other hacks as well. ;)

Revan 12-22-2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplorer4x4
Look's to me like there was alot more gratitude then complaints as of late. :ermm:

Nono, I ment that I shouldn't complain. I'm really sorry if I made it sound like YOU people were complaining, that's NOT what I ment.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplorer4x4
I am just curious why you need a public test board? I offered to test and you said there were pleanty of testers.

Because the way I see it, coding a vB hack has (should have) 4 phases:
1. Localhost testing. You test it on your computer and weed out the obvious errors such as parse errors and blank pages.
2. Privately owned public board. You let some users try out the hack on a public board, but one owned and managed by you so that if something goes terribly wrong or serious bugs appear, it's not the end of the world (or the end of someones forum).
3. Public beta. You release the hack with the Beta tag slapped on it, and make it clear to users that they are installing a hack that MIGHT have bugs, but SHOULDNT have any serious ones.
4. Release. By then you have probably weeded out all but the most obscure bugs, which will either surface come time or remain hidden forever due to noone accessing them.

That way I believe you minimise the risk you are exposing your hacks users for, and in the end create a better product :)

Xplorer4x4 12-22-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan
Nono, I ment that I shouldn't complain. I'm really sorry if I made it sound like YOU people were complaining, that's NOT what I ment.

Now your clear on that. ;)

Quote:

3. Public beta. You release the hack with the Beta tag slapped on it, and make it clear to users that they are installing a hack that MIGHT have bugs, but SHOULDNT have any serious ones.
Good luck with that. :p LMAO!

evenmonkeys 12-22-2005 09:34 PM

Go go power coders! I was going to ask if this could be my Christmas present... but I think I'll hold off on that. =P Glad to see updates.

akanevsky 12-28-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

1. Localhost testing. You test it on your computer and weed out the obvious errors such as parse errors and blank pages.
2. Privately owned public board. You let some users try out the hack on a public board, but one owned and managed by you so that if something goes terribly wrong or serious bugs appear, it's not the end of the world (or the end of someones forum).
3. Public beta. You release the hack with the Beta tag slapped on it, and make it clear to users that they are installing a hack that MIGHT have bugs, but SHOULDNT have any serious ones.
4. Release. By then you have probably weeded out all but the most obscure bugs, which will either surface come time or remain hidden forever due to noone accessing them.
Too sophisticated. ;)

Ky Kiske 12-29-2005 03:22 PM

*sits on the side waiting to press "Install"*

vietkieu_cz 12-31-2005 05:00 PM

when you share Ushop for 3.5.X?

TyleR 12-31-2005 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vietkieu_cz
when you share Ushop for 3.5.X?

When it's done...?

evenmonkeys 12-31-2005 09:14 PM

How long does it really take? I mean... I'm not trying to be an ass here... but other people create their very complicating hacks overnight. Hell, I write different scripts in a matter of a few hours. I just find it so hard to believe that it takes this long to release this hack. Maybe I'm being a little ignorant as I am not exactly sure what you're all putting into it, but it's a matter of adding and subtracting points while adding and subtracting options at the same time.

Maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about... but it seems like this has taken far longer than it should have. Either way, I'm still really anxious to see this hack finished. I just hope it happens soon.

If there is anything I can do to help out, please let me know. Even if it means paying for the test board license. =P

Edog 01-01-2006 04:00 PM

Let the masters do there magic. .

tidy_boy 01-01-2006 04:19 PM

I have just installed uCash cant wait for uShop :D:D:D


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