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spence2 08-24-2005 05:12 PM

I have frequently noticed hackers directing support for their free hacks to another site. So, this is allowed, correct?

Assuming, of course, that support is available where they are directed.

AN-net 08-24-2005 05:59 PM

i believe to resolve that issue of taking support off site, vb.org created the "Premium Modification" Forums.

BamaStangGuy 08-24-2005 06:26 PM

I personally think it would be better if vb.org would allow for the distribution of commercial products within this site.

But thats me

yoyoyoyo 08-24-2005 06:41 PM

So, where The Geek made a mistake was in being honest?!? He could have just planned to do a paid hack all along, but not said anything, and then removed or changed the hack to a "lite" version at the time it went commercial, but instead he was honest and stated up front that it was a beta for a commercial program. I guess that shows what honesty will get you.

bigcurt 08-24-2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentWilson
I personally think it would be better if vb.org would allow for the distribution of commercial products within this site.

But thats me


See the problem with that is though man, is that Jelsoft is a company, vbulletin.org is owned by jellsoft..you cant allow sales of commercial products on another businesses page. ALTHOUGH, I do not see a big deal in making a beta version and then saying here you guys can use the beta but the real version will cost..you see what I am saying? Just leave a link in your sig to it and be done with it and if people want the actual version than ok, or just wait for a lite version..that geek I think said he was going to release..nothing wrong with that :).



~Curt

The Geek 08-24-2005 07:03 PM

Well, hopefully this situation may give Jelsoft more reason to look into a system that satisfies the needs of their customers a little better. Im not saying the system as it is totally sucks - though it was a real bummer to go through getting a major work up only to have it brought straight down for being honest and upfront about it. What I am saying is that I think its time for a change and a better solution.

Jelsofts stance now means that all the pirates now have pretty much full access to my scripts. Er, heck... who am I kidding? Pirates dont really often pay for things now do they ;)

If Jelsoft supported its commercial authors that would only make way for better enhancments for vB. I for one could have saved a lot of money if I didnt have to take luck of the draw when it came to buying commercial add ons. Going 'shopping' for vB is made a black art by Jelsoft refusing to give voice to commercial coders. And I mean - come on... its not like anyone is running a full time business doing it. If anyone relies soley on making enhancments for vB for income - ill munch my hat. Most people do it because they simply can not afford not to charge something for their time.
Ive done it totally FOC here for quite some time - as much as I wish it wernt true - I literally can not do it anymore.

Thanks to those that have given support. Especially to Erwin and Kirby. Sorry I was in such a fowl mood last night. I appreciate your understanding.

Anyway. Now lets hope something positive comes from this. After all, I dont code for money, I code for installs :)

BTW: I will eventually try to get stripped down lite versions here, however my focus has to be on the full blown ones first which will take awhile.

Thanks again.

Andreas 08-24-2005 07:12 PM

This is just my personal opinion, but I would not want to have any commercial stuff here.

The Geek 08-24-2005 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirbyDE
This is just my personal opinion, but I would not want to have any commercial stuff here.

I dont think vb.org needs to house commercial scripts. I agree that it would be more of a mine field than not.

What I would like to see is something like a directory of commercial scripts where users can rate and comment on the price, quality, support, etc... These are essentials that would help Jelsoft customers make more informed decisions about purchasing 3rd party scripts. It is a service that would benefit customers so I am sure its a service that could be looked into.

Just my thoughts anyway :)

AN-net 08-24-2005 08:51 PM

maybe a vbulletin seal of approval?

The Geek 08-24-2005 09:07 PM

Would be cool - however the logisitics of something like that (and the polotics) would kill it dead.

Im still keen on a directory unless someone can come up with plausible reasons why it wouldnt work.


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