Not always, but they have no way to determin if someone is one or nto.

I notice Cinq asked about forum.vbulletin-fr.org - I'm guessing this is for the same reason as me - I received a PM tonight asking for permission to translate & release my hacks on their site.

Does anyone know anything about this site - are they a pirate site, or trustworthy ? Does anyone know how they verify licence holders.

i see their is a vb germany but how come their isnt any other vb countries?. I would think having a whole lot of countries under one forum for vb would be more organized such as vbulletin-europe. where anyone that doesnt speak english goes their for vb license and if anyone needs translation for any hacks released here we can help them without worrying about non network sites or even thinking if the site is pirated or not.

vbulletin-fr.org seems like a courteous site to me. I dunno if they verify the license but at least they ask permission before translating hacks and they always give credit to the author.

Yep Paul, that's the case for me.
I like that they are polite to ask for permission first, but I wanted to check if their site ( as well as others ) verify licenses first before reverting.

Apparently, they do not check licenses.

I would suggest saying that they are allowed to translate it, but they can not redistrubute it outside of vBulletin.org, as in they translate, you add it to the downloads.

Hello all,

I'm one of vbulletin-fr moderators

We help French community of vBulletin, yes not-official, but as you, we try to offer support for french speaking users.

We always ask permission for the hacks we'd like to translate. In addition, in our hack storage system the link to the original hack is always given.

We thank the authors for their authorizations, which make it possible to increase the family of community the vBulletin.

We also set up, with the agreement of Xenon, a licence checking system for the french translation of vBulletin, we think of making it the same way for hacks, but waiting for more feedbacks about this system.

If you have any question, don't hesitate

ps: sorry for my little english ;)

Well, to be more precise, I asked some months ago the permission of Xenon to use vBulletin.org to verify licence of the users.

The system I made isn't 100% safe (I think so but safe against web noobs). On our site, when someone tries to download our french translation of the language file, we ask the member to go to this page : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=68736 and click on the link which is in the code area (needs to have a valid licence to see it). Then the member is redirected to a script I made which controls the HTTP_REFERER (so, the exact url of the post) and update an option in the user table.

I was reluctant to ask for new permissions, as we had some problemes before.

Since the old admin moved away and we (coadmins and me) are in charge of the forum, we try to be respectful of the copyrights.

Feel free to give or deny your permission. If you want your hacks to be protected by the system we made, tell us.

Well, it was a good idea, but in france (I think it's the same in other countries) there are some licenced members who give hacks, translations, illegal version of vBulletin on illegal sites. They can also give vbadvanced password aso ...

We tried to close those sites, but it's impossible.

I though the system I made, even if it's not 100% safe, is better than password. As a password would be given two-three hours after I changed it on vbulletin.org.

If someone has a better idea, I'll take a look at it :).

don't agree with that. It's stupid to think everybody speaks english. For instance, some users we have on vbulletin-fr.org hesitate to buy vbulletin as they DO NOT understand english (it's true). We are not a pirated site, but respectful of authors copyrights and french laws.

That system is definitely not foolproof, and this does not mean vBulletin-Fr.com an official Jelsoft site, but it's better than nothing. :)

I used to think that the whole thing was BS because I was just an admin for someone else paying the bills and not interested one bit in vbulletin.com or dealing with support. So for a long time I didn't get it. Once I had my own licenses, it became apparent why things are done the way they are and the vaule of the code we share despite it being free mods.