PS. I would be more than happy to support and give back to this site through advertising dollars if it were allowed.

Ideally, Jelsoft would do something along the lines of Webhosting Talk. On that site, hosts who wish to have access to hosting requests have paid for the privilege. The user fills out a form, and then any interested web host responds via email.

Also, Jelsoft would accept paid adds for addons such as photopost, and no discussion about paid products would be allowed here period. I'm all for coders making money, but am not crazy about coders pimping their wares whereever conversation even hints at something they sell.

Amy

I think the original suggestion of releasing x hacks to gain access to service requests is a good idea actually. A very good idea :)

I think it could be a good thing too :)

Boofo, yes we learn coding for vBulletin thanks to other hacks and coz we are interested in it.

If others don't like it or don't want to learn it (it requires really a lot of time to know very good vbulletin), if thay propose to pay for sthg, why should we refuse ?

In my opinion, each work should have to be paid even if we do and distribute free hacks

I (Grog, but Mtor agrees with me), some of Services requested here are very special hack which are not usefull for a lot of boards or that we don't want to do for free

Wa are 2 poor students (:p) and we are happy to find some paid works here now and then.
I think that as suggested by sabret00th, this system could be a good one to thank hackers who work for nothing here (even not a thank from some members ..... most of the time)

Grog, I can see where you are coming from on here. The ones I am talking about are the ones who do nothing but (or mostly) paid hacks after learning from here. Those are the ones that get to me. A free vBulletin coding education and a slap in the face to the ones who gave it to them.

I personally disagree with having a service request section at all on a commercial web site like this is (as being an official sister site from Jelsoft). It only has potential to turn this into a marketplace with higher risk of fraud and disputes between members etc. Unwanted PM's and Emails of services and what else might be possible (regardless of set rules).

I also think this is a call that Jelsoft has to make as they are the overseeing company on this site - rather then the staff or me or you.

That is just how I personally think/feel about this. :) (as an end-user)

Floris, I said I *understood* his point of view, I never said I agreed with it. I have no time foir ANY paid hacks. Never have and never will. Not here, anyway. I, myself, would go without a hack before I would ever pay 1 red cent for it. And I think offering paid hacks is just another way to milk a newbie. It's not right. And that's how I feel about it. ;)

I just clicked a random quick reply :) vBorg has quote checked by default, something I am not used to. It wasn't directed at you - it was a reply to the topic.

It will never work, too many ideas are closed to the ownership thought. You think the infighting is bad now, wait till you see 10 versions of every hack because some folks are releasing to meet a quota.

This is the most paramount issue here, it'll be interesting to see how things are as people start to post again in this new environment.

The first mod that see's a hack like theirs will squash it and the crap will start again.

thank you dean and grog.

it's really in the interest of the ones who can't hack, i mean you go thru the service requests forum and you see some stuff that people used to make for free, i mean if it weren't for the fact that zach and link hooked up we'd be most likely to see what 10-20 hack requests for a store. personally i use hack requests when i think something is massive (at which point i'll say you can sell it), i want something exclusive or something i want but feel people need motivation to make it (and i'll request it gets released free).

a hack passport isn't alot to ask and as for noppids idea that it would have lots of people making the same thing, i think you're wrong, you always get people who can make hacks from the requests forum if ideas are short and not to many hacks like working on the same thing anyway :)