we are waiting for jelsoft's answer.

as the system is now, you can get hacks as long as you can get into the members area.
AFAIK when your license runs out you just don't have acces to the downloadsection of the members area anymore but you can log into the members area itself and therefore also getting hacks..

My understanding is that you will still show as 'licensed' if you have an owned license that is no longer active. Of course if you have an expired leased license, then you no longer have the right to run vBulletin anyway.

I have an owned license :).
Thanks Steve, yet again.
You're always helping me lol.
And pretty quick too :D.
Keep up the good work.

Dave.