well if it's decided to add such a system maybe you can help coding ;)

ok, but we need more suggestions too :)

Review, adjust, and enforce the forum rules here. The maturity level at times here is appalling. Too many times I have seen hissy fits from various hackers over what ultimately means diddly squat.

Have hacks rated by well-known and respected VB team members. Not to be rude but 3345 responses to a "great hack" by 3345 kids means nothing to me.

~Regs.

i totally agree.

you're thinking of a jury system?
so just Hackjury members can rate threads and also should rate threads?

i dont like the sound of clans...

but i agree you should make sure the mods keep an eye on the forums cuz sooo many ppl post in the wrong places...

also we need to encourage more people to make hacks... i mean some of us *drops head in shame* hardly know any php... perhaps steps cud be taken for a staff member to teach php to people...

id certainly like to learn more about php and id like to code my own hacks too...

Perhaps get rid of the inactive mods too... i know they're busy but corey and jonathan rarely post in their respective forums... perhaps appoint someone like me who knows a lot about the vb templates system who can regularly post...

Also i think that we should have an experienced php coder who keeps an eye on the full releases forum and if people can't provide support then this staff member can..

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Just a few ideas :)

- miSt

i personally think a clan system will create only division in a community...
only the idea to have separate teams makes me wonder.. who get's other's team etc... i dont know. i never thought about it, but this is my first thing that passed through my mind.. division.

A review system if you will, such that final hacks are reviewed in terms of adding loads, optimization, etc. I'm not talking about 'usefulness' here since that is something that depends on individual tastes. Set up a new forum or hack in a separate rating system only available to esteemed VB team members.

My vision is one where quality is separated from quantity.

Another suggestion is better user levels... I have no clue as to what a "tyro hacker" is or how that differs from an "ultimate hacker"... Is it based on post count? Is it based on the number of hacks submitted?

Promotion and demotion of mods is a good idea as well. Some definitely are not pulling their weight around here :rolleyes:

~Regs.

the reviews is an excellent idea. very good point indeed.

I also think that the inundation of 2.2.xs are stifling things a bit (people don't want to apply a ton of hacks then have to do it all over again). That and vB3. Otherwise I think this is a great place. :)

IMHO the most important problem in vb.org is it does not befit well with its primary concern, that is "vbulletin hacks".

The number of hack threads is over 1200 in full releases section and it's impossible to track them with the existing system anymore. Hacks appear in the main page while they are released and the new release rate is so rapid that they expire even in 2 or 3 days. Then they are forgotten in the dark corners of Full Releases section and nobody runs into them unless they are accidently bumped. Hack db is a very nice idea but it's obvious it's not working very well to promote hacks.

IMO a new approach is needed urgently to handle the rapid hack release rate (which is a good thing BTW!)...

I'm not determined what would be the best approach but different methods can be thought like:
* Dividing the section into small pieces and seperating the small code modifications from major hacks (like Xenon always suggests)
* Putting hack releases under moderation
* Promoting more hacks in the main page dynamically. Top 10 hack list might be good idea but it just makes sures that the hacks in the list will be always in top 10 considering the traffic they get just because they are listed in that list. Different promotion tools can be coded such as listing top X hacks according to different criteria and randomly changing..
* In forum home there can be a small line choosing a hack randomly from the db with a few lines of comment and giving it a chance to be promoted..
* Regs's idea is also nice
* More hacks from different authors should be applied to vb.org. This would both increase the functionality here, encourage hacking and promote more hacks to vb members..

Well many others can be thought but I guess I made my point. The bottom line is: Full Releases section is a mass and does not suffice for the very high number of new hack releases anymore..

We have a chance: Vb3 will be released soon, so whatever new approach will be applied, it can at least be applied to VB3 hacks section..