I'll use again Ozzy47's statistics. What about Ad revenue? I'm totally novice on this topic as never used advertisments. But have heard that some people are getting good money (good money can be $200 for someone who earns $0 from his coding work).

So with simple calculations if his site had 5000 users instead of 700 and 150,000 posts instead of 22,000 for sure he has the possibility to earn something from advertisments.

But mostly.... how to say it.... is not about money.... It's the feeling that you're not alone in the ship. That there are some people there to discuss anything you like.

You're assuming active users, not just registrations. So like I said above, there has to be something there to make it worth the trouble of registering. I'm guessing most admins don't want to spend much time discussing mods.

Just as a side note, I do not have any adverts on my site, the above was a example.

For sure I mean active registrations. Maybe my post was not clear. Simple registrations can be done easily with a simple script, even manually if admin has some free time.

And I didn't meant to move all posts from here to the coder's site. NO !!. There are so many simple questions that can be post and reply here. I meant ONLY the bug reports. Mainly because they need a faster reply but also because using Project Tools monitoring them is much easier.

And also, time. It's only been relatively recently that Ozzy's opened his site up for registrations. It was a closed site, just a test site, as little as 18 months ago. Joe's has been open and active for years.

I definitely see examples every day of what you're talking about though. Several folks here who have already replied help out people here on vBorg every day, but very seldom even get a "Like" from the people they help. More often done but often omitted too, is the simple "Thank you" post in the thread where the help was received.

Seems it would be quite a stretch to expect these ingrates, these non-thankers, to take time out of their busy schedules to actually register on the sites of these folks who help them for free.

You would be surprised at how many people pissed and moaned because I have them register at my site to get the updated spiders list. They say, well put it on here, or I will just get it from a warez site.

Real classy.

EXACTLY !! This is what I want to say but my dammit English can't help me to express my real thoughts and feelings. Even the "Lost appratiation" don't know if it's the right word (or the best word).

To come back on me. I know (and I accept is as true), that many times I gave up my site, I even asked TheLastSuperman to Ban me for ever as a way to give up completely from this site. But I DON'T accept as true what some members are saying that I dropped my mods. That's not true. I gave them, now to Ozzy47, earlier to micheal332001 etc. Only Ozzzy47 kept his word to continue supporting them.

I found my microCART and microSUPPORT being dead. Two mods that I've spent some months to code. And started from microCART not only I fixed all known bugs but I added more and more features. While others were celebrating Christmas and New Year Eve, I was with my pyjamas trying to fix them. Yes, I got many Likes and Thank you. But as you can see my site has 5 members only, with 2 of them to be me and a demo account. Pitty :(

I was saying it is a unreasonable expectation for them to register at the board of someone who helped them or provided a great Mod, being as how you can't even get a plain ole "thanks" around here..Self absorbed people who never realize or don't care that guys like you and others who have replied here give their help freely, ask for nothing in return, and spend countless hours of their lives doing it.

Pardon me for getting all philosophical about this, but I use the people here for for my own selfish purposes.

I learned long ago that a life of fun is pretty trivial and frivolous. What makes life really enjoyable is accomplishing something, even if the accomplishments are trivial and frivolous. In years past I got my jollies building things -- concrete, wood, steel, I could do 'em all. But now that I'm getting old a creaky-jointed I've turned to a new pastime, writing code. If members of my forum or people here at vB.org get some good out of my projects I can convince myself I've accomplished something, and fortunately I'm pretty gullible on that matter.

So I always get some ingrates but as long as some people like my stuff I'm happy. You get something for free and I get to think I've done something. Win/win.

If everyone who downloaded one of my mods also registered on my site, they would just get pruned since I don't keep inactive members on my site. :D Of course, my site has nothing to do with my modifications. But, you are really making an assumption here that registration numbers actually mean anything. It is *active* members that mean something to a site.