its ok. im sure eventually i will either fix it, or someone will come along. i will likely end up looking closer at all the relevant templates. im going to assume the problem is in whichever template the threadview one is in.

I just found that this problem happens in chrome and firefox, but not in internet explorer.

There is a spacer open/close there. I'm guessing you have a black border on the spacer code?

i dont know what you mean, because a black border has nothing to do with 2 tables (or divs) overlapping.

if you have access to your own vbulletin 3.8.7 forum, make a new style, and change that "page background" to a transparent background. thats all i have done.

Remove any calls to "spacer.gif" we don't need those anymore, they originally were there to support bad browsers.

The "$spacer_open" hook calls it. It was designed to allow potentially wide content to expand to the width they need without breaking the layout of content above and below themselves. It's obsolete today - unless of course you intend to support IE6 and earlier browsers. Almost no one does that anymore because there aren't any humans using these anymore.

Get rid of the spacer open/close there and see if that solves the issue. I bet it does.

can you please tell me what template you are talking about?

Only one it could be, same one I was talking about here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....02&postcount=7

Spacer open, spacer close.

ok, that solved that problem, but has created a new problem. but it seems easy enough to fix. i think.
The overlap is gone, but now the postbit is not holding the same width. im pretty sure i can fix that easy.

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http://www.joerakowski.com/links/fix.jpg

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So anyhow, thanks a lot man. You solved the problem.

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

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actually, im tired as hell right now. if you already know offhand what i need to change to get the postbit area back to normal width, clue me in. i need a nap. :p

Yep now without the spacers fouling up the showthread, you have more freedom on width adjustments and are getting the truth out of the scripts now.