use both i posted above

If you look at your test results you can see exactly what is slowing you down.

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/13...21E/1/details/

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I have vbtech optimize pro i bought in September but was told it didn't help

Right! Look at it!

I am but cannot make heads or tails from that graph. Just getting back into this vb stuff.

The programs mentioned above are fine, but I would hold off with using them for now. After reviewing your site you need to analyze your host first. @Max_Taxable was trying to tell you that your hosts times seem terrible.

Use one of the many free web testing tools out there and examine your host. Make sure you test from different locations around the world. If it is just a local board then do not worry about a continent halfway around the world.

If you are aware of other web sites that share your server, test them as well. Once you have established that your host times are in order you can then move on and critique your page speed. Start by fixing your errors on your site and using the default templates with your plugins disabled -- to benchmark.

Hope this helps :)

All of your calls are there, and the graph shows you how long it takes each of them to load.

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And his own test he ran at Meehan just told him that too:

http://www.webpagetest.org/result/13...21E/1/details/

First byte time is his host, and really that's the least of his issues at this point.



To the OP: To get a baseline reading on your site from WebPageTest dot org, make the vBulletin default style the default style for your site, turn off all plugins, then run the test. This will let you know the difference the custom skin and all the add-ons and plugins are making.

Ok what is the best way to disable all plugins at once?

Instead of rewriting a good post let me refer you to this:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=76

Since you have access to your ACP, and if you don't feel comfortable doing the manual edit.

You can turn off the Plugins from the Admin CP:

Admin CP -> vBulletin Options -> Plugin/Hook System -> Enable Plugin/Hook System -> No