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bzcomputers 08-16-2013 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheInsaneManiac (Post 2438710)
Quote:

Originally Posted by final kaoss (Post 2438658)
Just something I thought about, what does google think about these messages being displayed to not use adblock, because they have a section that someone can use to report a site for "encouraging users to click ads"?

While your default text doesn't exactly say that, what would happen if a user submitted your site to the adsense guidelines for that rule?

I've already clarified with them, their response was they in no way endorse or support Adblock Plus, and as long as you aren't encouraging to click the advertisements, then they do not care.

They despise abp, remember a few months back they removed abp off Google Play and Chrome market place?

This sounds about right. The latest news you can search on is Google is actually paying Adblock Plus to show some of their ads. Certainly would be more monetarily beneficial to Google if everyone used an add-on like this.


......


There are a couple issues in the CSS of this addon (v.0.3.2):

Need some quotes around the div id. This is currently stopping the new opacity change from working.
Code:

('<div id="stickymsg">
and the <strong> is not working correctly, I just went with a span style:
Code:

[s]<strong>[/s]<span style="font-weight:bold;">Adblock Plus</span>[s]</strong>[/s]
Also setting the cookie for 365 days seems excessively long. If someone is going to install this add-on they don't want users using an adblocker. If I understand it correctly once the first warning is closed a cookie is set, and with the current coding it appears the warning will not come up again for 365 days (or until the cookie is cleared). This may be something that should eventually be an option the user can adjust but until then maybe something like 7-14 days would be a better number.


Edit: This also does not work in the CMS section. (same as your TOR Alert)

TheInsaneManiac 08-27-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bzcomputers (Post 2439115)
This sounds about right. The latest news you can search on is Google is actually paying Adblock Plus to show some of their ads. Certainly would be more monetarily beneficial to Google if everyone used an add-on like this.


......


There are a couple issues in the CSS of this addon (v.0.3.2):

Need some quotes around the div id. This is currently stopping the new opacity change from working.
Code:

('<div id="stickymsg">
and the <strong> is not working correctly, I just went with a span style:
Code:

[s]<strong>[/s]<span style="font-weight:bold;">Adblock Plus</span>[s]</strong>[/s]
Also setting the cookie for 365 days seems excessively long. If someone is going to install this add-on they don't want users using an adblocker. If I understand it correctly once the first warning is closed a cookie is set, and with the current coding it appears the warning will not come up again for 365 days (or until the cookie is cleared). This may be something that should eventually be an option the user can adjust but until then maybe something like 7-14 days would be a better number.


Edit: This also does not work in the CMS section. (same as your TOR Alert)

Yea I had the opacity fixed in tor alert, but haven't gotten around to fixing it in Adblock alert yet. I'm a one man army here haha. I will have to find a different hook to latch into for the CMS. <b> would also work too, but I believe <strong> was retired in newer versions of html, so that is why I believe it does not work. I will replace in future versions. That shouldn't be a problem. I'll actually probably pull some features from Proxy Alert aka Tor Alert into Adblock Alert. I'll also see about adding an option to change the days the cookie stays for those who are looking for a lesser persistent option. Also below you will see attached a screenshot where Google states that this modification is golden in their eyes.

bzcomputers 08-27-2013 10:31 PM

You may even want to include that email screenshot with the mod download. I believe this mod would be much more popular if everyone wasn't so paranoid about Google Adsense dropping them from the program for using it. There are some horror stories out there about people breaking Google Adsense Terms Of Service and being dropped. The email screenshot should set many at ease.

Now for my numbers and conclusions...
I've been running this mod for about 3 weeks now and I can say over that time my Adsense pageviews are up a minimum of 3%. I calculate this by taking my Google Analytics pageviews and comparing them to my Google Adsense pageviews and concluding the difference in reported pageviews are from those that use ad blocking software. This is as accurate as could think of doing it considering all my pages have at least one ad. This difference in pageview counts between the two decreasing 3% means an additional 3% of my pages are now showing ads. In addition, over this same period of time that my adsense pageviews are up 3% my CTR has also been up about 12%. From this I can also conclude that those who have now turned off their ad blockers for my site are now clicking on ads at least as often or at an even higher rate than those who didn't have it turned on to begin with. So, at a minimum I can conclude my profits are up somewhere over 3% for a five minute install of this mod.

In actuality...
I believe the above mentioned 3% is a very conservative number. I believe the actual impact is even higher but I can't prove it outright. The reason I believe it is higher is that many adblockers also block analytics tracking code (i.e. block Google Analytics) which many of you may not have known. For instance Ad Blocker Plus by default on install will completely block Google Analytics tracking code. So, not only are Ad blockers not allowing your ads to show but your site analytics are off too because ad blocking programs are also blocking your site tracking code from working. Considering that, I can also conclude that at least some on the increase in overall pageviews shown on Google Analytics over this same 3 week time period are also related to users disabling their adblocking software.

I don't have the busiest site on the net, but I do have thousands of visitors daily and haven't had one comment or complaint so far about the anti-adblock pop-up this mod displays. I currently have the code set to show once a week - so those repeat visitors who have not shut off there adblocker (yet!) have seen it 3 times now - still no complaints.

TheInsaneManiac 08-27-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bzcomputers (Post 2441556)
You may even want to include that email screenshot with the mod download. I believe this mod would be much more popular if everyone wasn't so paranoid about Google Adsense dropping them from the program for using it. There are some horror stories out there about people breaking Google Adsense Terms Of Service and being dropped. The email screenshot should set many at ease.

Now for my numbers and conclusions...
I've been running this mod for about 3 weeks now and I can say over that time my Adsense pageviews are up a minimum of 3%. I calculate this by taking my Google Analytics pageviews and comparing them to my Google Adsense pageviews and concluding the difference in reported pageviews are from those that use ad blocking software. This is as accurate as could think of doing it considering all my pages have at least one ad. This difference in pageview counts between the two decreasing 3% means an additional 3% of my pages are now showing ads. In addition, over this same period of time that my adsense pageviews are up 3% my CTR has also been up about 12%. From this I can also conclude that those who have now turned off their ad blockers for my site are now clicking on ads at least as often or at an even higher rate than those who didn't have it turned on to begin with. So, at a minimum I can conclude my profits are up somewhere over 3% for a five minute install of this mod.

In actuality...
I believe the above mentioned 3% is a very conservative number. I believe the actual impact is even higher but I can't prove it outright. The reason I believe it is higher is that many adblockers also block analytics tracking code (i.e. block Google Analytics) which many of you may not have known. For instance Ad Blocker Plus by default on install will completely block Google Analytics tracking code. So, not only are Ad blockers not allowing your ads to show but your site analytics are off too because ad blocking programs are also blocking your site tracking code from working. Considering that, I can also conclude that at least some on the increase in overall pageviews shown on Google Analytics over this same 3 week time period are also related to users disabling their adblocking software.

I don't have the busiest site on the net, but I do have thousands of visitors daily and haven't had one comment or complaint so far about the anti-adblock pop-up this mod displays. I currently have the code set to show once a week - so those repeat visitors who have not shut off there adblocker (yet!) have seen it 3 times now - still no complaints.


I am happy to hear my modification has increased revenue in your website, I will be continuing to develop the modification to bring more features here soon. I have already added an option to change the time the cookie is stored. This will be in the next version. I def appreciate the feedback, I know with use on my forums (I use almost all my mods I create on my forums) I saw an increase in revenue as well. Instead of me getting checks every 2 months, I now get checks every month. So that's definitely handy. I will make sure to include the screenshot with future versions when these other projects I am working on die down. Thank you for the idea and suggestions. :)

bzcomputers 01-09-2014 02:13 AM

Had to disable this mod. Google has started to use this mods text as the description for many of my sites pages.

Edit: Happened to be just a result of the keywords that were searched (the domain name) that was causing this.

EliasAlucard 03-25-2014 10:17 AM

Excellent stuff, InsaneManiac, just bought the pro version!

TheInsaneManiac 01-16-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bzcomputers (Post 2473160)
Had to disable this mod. Google has started to use this mods text as the description for many of my sites pages.

Edit: Happened to be just a result of the keywords that were searched (the domain name) that was causing this.

That is strange, in the next update I'll apply a conditional for the bots to not index that text.

Also it looks like Adblocks newest update allows to block Alert Messages. I will do further research to see if this affects my product in terms of the alert or blocking method.

RealitYYY 02-05-2015 07:05 PM

Had another version that had stopped working recently and was pointed to this. This works very well and have added some things including an ad we have normally to it. Wondering how wede code to rotate another ad with it...

Code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="abp/adblock_detector.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
if (document.getElementById("TestAdBlock") == undefined)
{
        document.write('<br /><div style="background-color: white; border-width: 2px; border-style: dashed; border-color: white;"><center><span style="color:#FFFFFF"><span style="color:#FF0040">Turn AdBlock OFF and this will NOT show!! The ads on FST are NOT obtrusive.<span style="color:#FFFFFF"><br><a href="http://affiliate.astraweb.com/10797-3-1-14.html" target="_blank rel="nofollow"><img src="http://a.fststatic.com/aw.gif" alt="" /></a><br><a href=\"/showthread.php?t=125697\"><img src=\"/images/statusicon/cp_help.gif\" height=\"12\" width=\"12\" alt=\"Help\" title=\"READ THIS\" /><span style="color:#3366FF"> -> How to Disable AdBlock for This Site since the ads are NOT obtrusive. <- <\/a><a href=\"/showthread.php?t=125697\"><img title=\"How To Close This\" src=\"/images/statusicon/cross.png\" alt=\"Close\"></a></center></div>');
}
</script>

http://filesharingtalk.com/forum.php

TheInsaneManiac 02-17-2015 06:42 AM

Just an update, ABP has released new list which remove adblock warnings. However this script still works.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RealitYYY (Post 2536347)
Had another version that had stopped working recently and was pointed to this. This works very well and have added some things including an ad we have normally to it. Wondering how wede code to rotate another ad with it...

Code:

<script type="text/javascript" src="abp/adblock_detector.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
if (document.getElementById("TestAdBlock") == undefined)
{
        document.write('<br /><div style="background-color: white; border-width: 2px; border-style: dashed; border-color: white;"><center><span style="color:#FFFFFF"><span style="color:#FF0040">Turn AdBlock OFF and this will NOT show!! The ads on FST are NOT obtrusive.<span style="color:#FFFFFF"><br><a href="http://affiliate.astraweb.com/10797-3-1-14.html" target="_blank rel="nofollow"><img src="http://a.fststatic.com/aw.gif" alt="" /></a><br><a href=\"/showthread.php?t=125697\"><img src=\"/images/statusicon/cp_help.gif\" height=\"12\" width=\"12\" alt=\"Help\" title=\"READ THIS\" /><span style="color:#3366FF"> -> How to Disable AdBlock for This Site since the ads are NOT obtrusive. <- <\/a><a href=\"/showthread.php?t=125697\"><img title=\"How To Close This\" src=\"/images/statusicon/cross.png\" alt=\"Close\"></a></center></div>');
}
</script>

http://filesharingtalk.com/forum.php

Do you mean two notifications?

mtauriza 03-22-2015 08:10 PM

Hi, I'm already using this alert but the message continues appearing after the adblock has been desactivated. Why?

Thanks!!


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