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datoneer 05-27-2013 10:27 PM

I have some style issues on my forum is there any way to fix it?

http://prntscr.com/17082z

Can you add an option to remove any of these advertising locations?

Archive, Thread, Board, Forum etc. because i'm not offering ad space on all these parts of forum

skol 05-27-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2424432)
Uploaded a fixed file in the zip, thanks :)

You managed to receive that error before installing it? That's pretty impressive, I'd think you'd receive a DB error about a missing phrasegroup dbtech_forumads before you ever got to that page if you hadn't installed the mod yet :)


Fillip

The previous post was deleted,that comment was pointing to his comments..But if you want to clutch at straws,then yes your correct the install went through with no error..Unfortunately I couldn't test your product after it was installed..Hope that sounds better..:)

DragonByte Tech 05-28-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datoneer (Post 2424545)
I have some style issues on my forum is there any way to fix it?

http://prntscr.com/17082z

Can you add an option to remove any of these advertising locations?

Archive, Thread, Board, Forum etc. because i'm not offering ad space on all these parts of forum

Unfortunately we cannot support skins that are that narrow. Your skin has just over 1000 pixels of usable space, whereas the minimum resolution found in most browsers today is over 1300 pixels (the screens in cheap laptops are 1366x768 I believe, with smartphones and desktops leading the charge by offering 1920x1080).

There's currently no way to hide the images for areas where you don't offer advertising - those are all the native locations vBulletin supports ads.


Fillip

datoneer 05-28-2013 02:32 PM

Ok thank you

skol 05-29-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

DragonByte Forum Ads allows you to offer your ad space on the forums at a price, letting potential advertisers submit their advertisements for consideration before they are asked to pay.
Thanks for the mod,I can see great potential for this...Question? When they upload an ad for consideration were is that file actually saved? How do you point your ad location to that image? Is it automatically done,and are we talking static images or can they upload .swf...I tried a flash file but I couldn't find were it had uploaded to,it wasn't in the banner folder..

Thanks..

lazytown 05-30-2013 04:14 AM

Seems like a great mod so far! I have a few questions.

1) How does it handle sites that also use google adsense? Is it able to use adsense as the alternative if purchased ad-space isn't filled? Is there a threshhold you can set that the ad CPM must reach before they are allowed to replace adsense ads?

2) How does the keyword targeting work? Does it replace every single word that occurs throughout the entire site, or can you specify a percentage of chance a keyword is replaced or # of keyword impressions or specific forum sections? I don't like the idea of replacing every occurrence of a word. It might seem like link spam to google. Does it have the option to use an intermediary link redirect?

3) Is there any way to charge per ad/keyword clicked?

4) Are we able to disable certain ad spots? I don't mind if it shows them all, but I only want to offer certain spots.

5) It would also be awesome if we could offer custom ad spots (with code that could be manually inserted into the templates).. For example, if we wanted small box or skyscraper ads on the right side of the forum. They don't have to have an image, perhaps just a description created by the admin.

Thank You!

lazytown 05-30-2013 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2424634)
Unfortunately we cannot support skins that are that narrow. Your skin has just over 1000 pixels of usable space, whereas the minimum resolution found in most browsers today is over 1300 pixels (the screens in cheap laptops are 1366x768 I believe, with smartphones and desktops leading the charge by offering 1920x1080).

There's currently no way to hide the images for areas where you don't offer advertising - those are all the native locations vBulletin supports ads.


Fillip

The browser size issue sounds like a problem. According to Google, nearly 50% of browsers still are below 1250. See http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ . While the largest percentage of users may be at 1366, A) that doesn't mean the actual window size is that large, and B) 49% could still be well below that amount. I would target at least 75% of all users.

DragonByte Tech 06-03-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skol (Post 2424847)
Thanks for the mod,I can see great potential for this...Question? When they upload an ad for consideration were is that file actually saved?

/dbtech/forumads/images/banners

Quote:

Originally Posted by skol (Post 2424847)
How do you point your ad location to that image? Is it automatically done

It is indeed automatic :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by skol (Post 2424847)
are we talking static images or can they upload .swf...

Flash files are not supported at this time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
1) How does it handle sites that also use google adsense? Is it able to use adsense as the alternative if purchased ad-space isn't filled? Is there a threshhold you can set that the ad CPM must reach before they are allowed to replace adsense ads?

This mod does not feature adsense integration for placeholders at this time. If you post that @ our site, we'll take it into consideration :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
2) How does the keyword targeting work? Does it replace every single word that occurs throughout the entire site, or can you specify a percentage of chance a keyword is replaced or # of keyword impressions or specific forum sections?

It replaces every instance of a word in a post - that counts as one impression.

It only replaces keywords in posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
Does it have the option to use an intermediary link redirect?

It does use a redirect, in order to support tracking clicks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
3) Is there any way to charge per ad/keyword clicked?

Not retroactively, but as per the OP you can sell ads that are sold per 1 click/impression/day and advertisers can choose how many of the chosen metric they wish to buy in advance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
4) Are we able to disable certain ad spots? I don't mind if it shows them all, but I only want to offer certain spots.

Don't create banner spaces for those ad spots :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424871)
5) It would also be awesome if we could offer custom ad spots (with code that could be manually inserted into the templates).. For example, if we wanted small box or skyscraper ads on the right side of the forum. They don't have to have an image, perhaps just a description created by the admin.

You can do this by creating a new ad_locations_vissacustomads.xml XML file in /includes/xml.

If you open ad_locations_vbulletin.xml you'll see the format. Once you rebuild vBulletin's ad locations, and run Forum Ads' maintenance task to rebuild ad integration, you will have the option of a new banner space location.

You can then place the {vb:raw ad_location.whateveryounamedit} in a template.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vissa (Post 2424872)
The browser size issue sounds like a problem. According to Google, nearly 50% of browsers still are below 1250. See http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ . While the largest percentage of users may be at 1366, A) that doesn't mean the actual window size is that large, and B) 49% could still be well below that amount. I would target at least 75% of all users.

That site seems like it's not being updated any more in favour of Google Analytics on a per-site basis.

The statistics from W3Schools seem to counter your claim: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp & http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/br...ion_higher.asp for a breakdown of what "Higher" means.

So by targeting 1366px width, we are actually targeting over 90% of all users :)

We tend to design our products for the majority, and it's clear that the overwhelming majority have a higher screen resolution. Sure, this may not fit every single individual forum, but we can still say it covers the majority :)

A community catering to teaching the elderly about computing and the internet will probably have a higher percentage of IE users running older versions of Windows.
Does that mean we support IE6 on WinXP? Not by any stretch.

A community regarding hardware overclocking will probably have a higher percentage of Chrome or Firefox users running the newest version of Windows. Does that mean we don't support IE? Not by any stretch.

Update: Our Managing Director has informed me that for the future I should make the table of images fluid so that it can shrink to 1 image per line if the window is too narrow (and expand to 3+ images per line if the window is "too wide"), so look for that in a future update :)


Fillip

lazytown 06-03-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2425576)
.... The statistics from W3Schools seem to counter your claim: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_display.asp & http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/br...ion_higher.asp for a breakdown of what "Higher" means.

So by targeting 1366px width, we are actually targeting over 90% of all users :)

We tend to design our products for the majority, and it's clear that the overwhelming majority have a higher screen resolution. Sure, this may not fit every single individual forum, but we can still say it covers the majority :)

A community catering to teaching the elderly about computing and the internet will probably have a higher percentage of IE users running older versions of Windows.
Does that mean we support IE6 on WinXP? Not by any stretch.

A community regarding hardware overclocking will probably have a higher percentage of Chrome or Firefox users running the newest version of Windows. Does that mean we don't support IE? Not by any stretch.

Update: Our Managing Director has informed me that for the future I should make the table of images fluid so that it can shrink to 1 image per line if the window is too narrow (and expand to 3+ images per line if the window is "too wide"), so look for that in a future update :)

Thank you very much for your answers.. Regarding browser size. W3schools site says at the very top

Quote:

W3Schools.com is for people with an interest for web technologies. This fact indicates that the numbers below might not be 100% true for the average internet users. The average internet-user might have a lower screen resolution.
I do believe W3schools data is very skewed, as they themselves say is possible. I even found a forum discussion on their site stating it is skewed and doesn't include mobile browsers. 90% of browser sizes (which is not the same as screen size) are not over 1300px wide.. Especially considering the massive growth in mobile browsers, which have actually brought in a revival of lots of smaller and strange screen sizes (very tall and narrow).

Here's some useful contrary links regarding regarding browser viewport (again, different from screen size), and why it's bad to design based on reported screen size.
Update: Glad to hear you will be making the design fluid to fit varying widths.. I think it's a good decision.

lazytown 06-03-2013 08:05 PM

Oh, and see the following stats for the past 3 months (US only), which shows the #1 most used size in the US is still 1024x768 as of May 2013.

Desktop Screen Resolution (USA, last 3 months -- does NOT include mobile browsers)
http://gs.statcounter.com/#resolutio...303-201305-bar
(takes a while to compute stats and load)
For desktops, screen resolution does not equal browsers size. Very large screen widths (like 2000+) are probably dual monitors, and people with very wide screens do not usually open their browser full-screen.

You can probably find totally different stats on other websites.. It all depends on the type of website and the parameters (desktop, mobile, country, etc).


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