Ok i checked the Forum Manager and you were correct, it was set to 'test default style' so i changed it to the new 'default vbulletin' style and that part is good, but im still having the original problem, the threadview is still out of whack,any ideas?
http://dev.cowboys-forum.com/showthread.php?2-Test

I also noticed the Articles and Blogs sections are the same way, a transparent background in the content area.

This is messing things up - do you recognize it?

Perhaps the html username markup for the usergroup? Can you please remove it.

That did the trick, thanx im not even going try figuring out how you saw that string to ask me to delete it lol

firebug is a wonderful tool for looking for problems. :)

lol After i told the owner of the site it was fixed i figured it out, she used Firebug, dammit lol i have Firebug on Firefox i just dont know how to use it.

Practice and you will learn. :)

I will,thanx lol We have been having another problem on the active site, when someone posts an Article or an Admin tries to update the Rules it wont let us save our work, its one of the reasons we are working on the dev site.

The owner isnt in a hurry now and we would like to figure out why the Articles and Rules pages arent working correctly, is it possible that you could use your magic to see where problem may be.

http://www.cowboys-forum.com/content.php

I can't tell just by looking, but I would try using a totally default style, see if that fixes it. If not, try disabling all your plugins except those for the blogs/cms and see if that fixes it.

Will do,thanx it was working until we upgraded to 4.1.11 thats when it went in the tank.