It's too wide. Not too wide? But definitely wider than I had it before. Ok so my host installed the 12/31 backup to the new database and the error remains. Is the vb license tied into this? If I upload vb to new database, without deleting the old database that has my vb on it first? Will the license cause the installation on the new database to merge with the old install? Or could this be a server issue? Do I need to change servers? Or do I need to change ports? Both my db's run on localhost. What I'm saying is, do I need to delete All of my databases that have vb installed on them. Before I upload a back up .sql? In order for the backup to fully take?

If you change the name of the database in your config.php, that's it, it's using the new database and not the old one. None of the things you mentioned will have anything to do with it.

I'm sure Joe knows a lot more about styles than I do, but I'd say that if you switch databases and the problem is still there, then it was always there and you just didn't notice for some reason. I suppose if you have "Store CSS Stylesheets as Files" set to yes then it's possible there's some CSS that's not affected by switching databases. But I agree with Joe that there's really no way it could have been a problem with that mod.

The alignment of things can be affected by the length of post and thread titles - maybe it's just that someone posted a new thread with a title that's longer than when everything looked right.

I have store css as files set to NO. I don't know what the problem is but I definitely didn't have this problem ever since setting up the board as of last winter. So we've been using this board for almost a year and a half now. Which is why when things changed it became so noticeable. Especially since I designed the skins myself as far as colors are concerned. So I knew how wide and not wide they were supposed to be. Once this vb4 vsa mod came and went, the trouble started.

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Are you sure it couldn't be server related though? Or port related? Maybe some left over info is being called from somewhere? Or it permanently affected the way the forum is displayed on the server?

Listen...

You went back to the old database and it looks exactly the same...

Nothing has changed- you just didn't notice it before. Your forum looks exactly how a vBulletin forum is supposed to look.

You can re-upload your original vbulletin files but I know it won't make a difference.

You said you had tried it with hooks disabled and that didn't make a difference either, right?

There is nothing left to do- your forum looks like how it is supposed to look and how it must have always looked. Is it possible your web browser zoom is on? Check your zoom settings... Or maybe your computer resolution has changed? Whatever it is, it's NOT your forum.

How do you mean it is "TOO WIDE" ? It's as WIDE as the browser window like it's supposed to be. Do you want a Fixed Width style? Something that doesn't get wider as the browser window widens? Is that the question?

This stuff's complicated and nothing's impossible, so I won't say it's not a possibility. We just don't see what it could be. You went back to an old database so it's nothing in the database (you are seeing *old* content when you look at the old database, right?). Like Joe says above, you could upload all the vb files again, but there doesn't seem to be any way that for that mod to modify files, so it almost certainly won't matter. Did you force a reload in your browser (it's browser depended and I don't remember how to do it - hold down shift or ctrl when reloading, or something like that). There's nothing left, unless you have some other kind of caching set up (but you'd probably know about it if you did, unless someone else set up the site for you).

ETA: you have multiple styles - is it possible you switched styles and one of the other ones looks different?

I checked all the styles and in particular the vb default style, the hmands slasher, and our hmands 1st style look different.

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I don't have any special program set up for caching. As for fixed width, what would I have to do to make the body of my forum smaller and more compact? I think this could be a margin issue. But I don't know much about margins for 3.6. I wanna make the body margins smaller. Not the page or anything else. But like as far as browser windows are concerned, I wanna compact the forum inward more from the left and right sides. I read something about doc_margins, but that's only for vb4 I gather? Also, is there a specific file or two that I could grab and upload from my vb3 folder into my forum folder to specifically restore the overall structure of the board in general? Without affecting the colors or anything else of styles?

The values you are asking about can be accessed via Admin CP -> Style Manager -> [Choose Your Style] -> Choose "All Style Options" from the drop down menu, and scroll down to "Sizes and Dimensions"

Edit the values as you see fit.

But all these values are stored in the database and would have been reverted when you installed the old database.

Question. If I run the vbulletin install script and reinstall vbulletin from scratch, and then import my database into it. You think that would solve the problem?

No it will not.