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BigJohnny 09-20-2010 07:35 PM

I really don't know much about the laws regarding this stuff, but there has to be some judge out there somewhere that's going to think this is stupid based on giving no prior notifications.

how can you be sued for something you didn't know you had to remove, and would have happily removed if asked.

what does it boil down to? locking down the board to all but existing members and go on a vouche only system???

BirdOPrey5 09-20-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigJohnny (Post 2101124)
I really don't know much about the laws regarding this stuff, but there has to be some judge out there somewhere that's going to think this is stupid based on giving no prior notifications.

how can you be sued for something you didn't know you had to remove, and would have happily removed if asked.

what does it boil down to? locking down the board to all but existing members and go on a vouche only system???

The problem is to get in front of a judge is going to cost someone thousands of dollars in lawyers and legal fees that virtually no one they go after has- they aren't going to sue Facebook over this because they know Facebook's lawyers will laugh this out of court... but for the average forum owner who makes little if any money on their forum- we can't spend $10,000 on a team of lawyers... he knows we'll settle for $2,000 or $3,000 rather than risk getting a $75,000 judgement against us potentially ruining our real lives over an internet "hobby."

TNCclubman 09-20-2010 07:55 PM

Everyone should have a notice that posts on your forum belong to the post author, not your forum.

Like how youtube removes copyrighted material when its notified.

Paul M 09-20-2010 08:53 PM

Yah for the US legal system. They would be laughed out of a UK court, and face a legal bill for losing.

TNCclubman 09-20-2010 09:22 PM

Same in canada.

AdrianH 09-21-2010 04:41 AM

The point is he did not own the articles when they were published and people posted/commented about them. You can't claim retrospective rights like this anywhere else in the world and if the posts/comments acknowledge source/authorship and link back to the original there is no legal/copyright issue.

How would any newspaper,news service TV/Radio station avoid litigation for their reporting if this principle is allowed?

midnz 09-21-2010 06:09 AM

Weird: I was able to view the link (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/143700) from the first post in this thread this morning. Now I'm receiving an 'Access Denied' message, even using a proxy.

According to Wikipedia Righthaven LLC is a copyright litigation firm 'grubstaked' by Stephens Media ....
You can visit StephensMedia's website to see a list of their publications, should you feel inclined to boycott their product. I'd be inclined to deliberately ask before parting with my money for any service or product "Do you advertise with XXXX?". If the answer is "Yes" then oh well, "I'm sorry but I'll be buying my product from your competitor".

Over here in NZ we don't have to be concerned about an out-of-control legal industry such as exists in the US. One of our Government Departments tried to sue me a few years back and backed off before our first Court date after I threatened to represent myself in Court, as is my legal right. It would've taken yeeeears (at my pace) and they would've accumulated huge costs. They'd never have recouped a penny from me.

If their motive is money, kick them fair and square in their own money sacks! Don't wait to be a victim.

Marco van Herwaarden 09-21-2010 06:33 AM

I even wouldn't be surpprised if this was a political motivated hoax. I am not familiar enough with US politics, but isn't this website (dailypaul) an anti-Obama site?

Seeing they also posted an article trying to link Obama to this scam, it does seem so to me: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/143767

PS Just my first personal impression after reading that 2nd page, not based on any knowledge of this.

Xtrigit 09-21-2010 08:53 AM

Interesting

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

BigJohnny 09-21-2010 11:16 AM

couldn't this idiot sue google and a ton of other sites for caching the articles from the sites that have been sued??

I'd love to see this idiot take on google lol.


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