I got that php file from Lynn's article. I just copied it. The only change I made to it was specifiying the template name.

I don't echo my php or html. I just pointed the plugin at my php file and it loads it into the $includedphp variable and then I just add that variable to my template. Are you saying you put PHP code directly into the template file? That's one of the first things I tried and it will not run that way. Or are you saying I need to echo all php\html code in the template.?

I thinking I'm missing something here. Thanks for being patient. My code is for a separate app that resides inside custom vbulletin pages.

If you dont mind, can you PM me your php code? Would simplify things :P

sure. I have multiple pages. I'll send you one. Give me 5 minutes

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Sent. I have hundreds of lines of php and html code. The plugin method seems pretty simple. As I just point the plugin directly at the specific php page. I'm just unclear how I am supposed to make $output (or whatever variable name) = (all the php\html code for a particular php page I have without using a plugin.

It came as a bit of a surprise when I first learned I could not add PHP coded directly into the template files. Plus I read that the custom php code must first be buffered while the Vbulletin code is executed first. I'm unclear how this issue is addressed using the no plugin method.