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The Geek 01-14-2010 08:39 AM

I don't mind either way, however there does seem to be a higher ratio of people NOT clicking install then there has been in the past. For the first time I find myself getting aggravated with users asking for help or enhancements that can't even be arsed to click an install link.

When they download give them a JS prompt "You are about to mark mod as installled...." where they can cancel if they want.

Carnage 01-14-2010 04:05 PM

I had an annoyance in the opposite direction the other day... Users marking one of my mods as installed yet there was a bug in the install code - it didn't get reported till there were a number of installs already marked :p

Digital Jedi 01-14-2010 05:06 PM

I use the Downloaded section of the User CP to keep track of mods that I'm planning to install, but haven't done so yet. Granted, being forced to mark a download as installed would be a minor inconvenience, as I'd have to make sure to "Uninstall" it afterwards. But it would still be somewhat annoying, not to mention, contradictory to what you've actually done. After all, it just seems counterintuitive to have the system say you've done something, you haven't actually done.

GamingMojo 01-14-2010 06:05 PM

I also vote no.

I will admit, sometimes, in the past, I've forgotten to mark things as installed but, that makes it so much harder for me, when I'm trying to find support on it or whatever. So now, I'm in the habit of tagging mods I want to look at later, or have downloaded to try. If it works, and is what I want, I then mark it as installed. But it may be a week or two later when I go back to it, usually mark several of the tagged mods as installed at once.

If I had to click installed before I downloaded it, I'd find myself having to mark it as uninstalled if i wasnt installing straight away, and then marking it as installed once i do install it, if it works, seems, too much hassle, especially if you're after a few mods at once to try out. Like upon upgrading to 4.0 i'll be downloading many of my tagged mods but may not use all of them, or not what I want.

I've also, often downloaded the file more than once :o. If I can't find it/remember where I put it, or am on a different computer and want something from the read me or whatever, I'll redownload.

JakeS 01-17-2010 01:05 PM

Yeah, & Nah.

A better idea would be to have the ability so that, when the modification is installed, it sends a quick request to vB.org & then marks as "installed". And Upon un-installation sends request as "un-installed" :-)

Account details may need to be provided though :|, another problem is, this could cause DDOS if to many forums try to do it at once, and also, some servers may block the outgoing requests, so it would have to be optional, or by-passable if it errors out. Which would make it all a bit pointless.

But forcing people to click "installed" each time they download could become irritating to a few people, who may need to download more than once, for example if the download cancelled half way through for whatever reason :-)

Shelley_c 01-17-2010 08:06 PM

I find myself always clicking the install after I have tried and tested the script. I think it's just down to human nature for most to not install it or mark as installed to show their appreciation. I know from experience, I have downloaded and tried a script only to find it doesn't fit my needs so I personally think that marking as installed would give you a more inaccurate measure than it would now.

Let's face it, most people are ungrateful but then posting my own submissions here I'm not fussed if they mark as installed or not. I post for my own enjoyment and too benefit the few who have requested.

Edit: I voted No.

Charlie98902 01-17-2010 08:23 PM

BBR-APBT, I understand the reasoning behind this but at the same time there might be a user like me that will try it out and see how it effects the forum overall. I always run a test run before I decide to keep it or not.

Azhrialilu 01-17-2010 08:37 PM

Same as many others, I download, try out then if I keep it on the site come back and mark it as installed. I'm all for supporting the guys who bring us these modifications, but I'm not going to mark something as installed if it's not :)

TheLastSuperman 01-17-2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven s (Post 1934022)
No.
I'll download and install something but not click install.
I try it out for a little while and if it suits my needs come back and click install.

Quote:

Originally Posted by southernlady (Post 1954916)
And just because I download it doesn't mean it gets installed, either...sometimes it just doesn't do what *I* want it to do.

Liz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhrialilu (Post 1958597)
Same as many others, I download, try out then if I keep it on the site come back and mark it as installed. I'm all for supporting the guys who bring us these modifications, but I'm not going to mark something as installed if it's not :)

Same here ;) I download and if it does what I need it to do then I mark installed otherwise I did not install it so why mark as installed OR have to come back and unmark it? I think the system is fine how it is and I'm a coder :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSMedia (Post 1954956)
The install count is a useless metric that means nothing. It doesn't ensure the quality of a mod, how it works, if it's secure or any useful information other than to boost the ego's of coders so they can feel a sense of pride and self worth for releasing something.

Ego?? What is ego? :p :p :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shelley_c (Post 1958564)
I find myself always clicking the install after I have tried and tested the script. I think it's just down to human nature for most to not install it or mark as installed to show their appreciation. I know from experience, I have downloaded and tried a script only to find it doesn't fit my needs so I personally think that marking as installed would give you a more inaccurate measure than it would now.

Let's face it, most people are ungrateful but then posting my own submissions here I'm not fussed if they mark as installed or not. I post for my own enjoyment and too benefit the few who have requested.

Edit: I voted No.

This is why I like Shelley ;) well minus the most are ungrateful comment (ahh let's be optimistic when we can Shelley :p ;))

:D

Mike

Shelley_c 01-17-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman (Post 1958643)
Same here ;) I download and if it does what I need it to do then I mark installed otherwise I did not install it so why mark as installed OR have to come back and unmark it? I think the system is fine how it is and I'm a coder :p



Ego?? What is ego? :p :p :p



This is why I like Shelley ;) well minus the most are ungrateful comment (ahh let's be optimistic when we can Shelley :p ;))

:D

Mike

I'll give it a shot. 2010 was going to bring great things, then I woke up. :P

What I meant by my comment is the majority of people won't click the mark as installed because it's mainly down to laziness or they didn't see the link to click. Let's face fact, most users are new, they come on download and be on their way. By the time they familiarize how vb.org works they have forgotten the script they might want to install or too bone idle to find the thread and mark as installed. Okay, I never said that directly but that might just be another possibility why people aren't clicking. How's that for a touch of 2010 helping of Optimism? I'm optimistic that they won't return to click the link.

Personally, I always mark as installed once I have verified the script is working and fits my needs. Heck, I even donate to the people who I found that their script benefited my site.

The way I see it. You contribute because you want to not to expect to gain or get a "mark as installed" extra rating. Though that isn't the debate here.


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