I agree with that:D

I'll be getting ready to install it tomorrow on a test site. I am excited to see how it looks from the back end.

love it

Yea I'm not a fan of vB4 in its current beta form either.

I realize its beta, but its just not doing it for me, there isn't much of an OHHHHH AHHHH factor to it.

No, not at all :D

i'll be staying with 3.8 for current projects and moving to mybb for rest

I like it, what little I've messed around with

ya, its a real winner. a+ to the vb team, assuming you get the bugs fixed. :)

its just the look lol, the style section here should be smf 4.0 styles. actually all the styles look worse than smf default. every time vbulletin upgraded i felt behind, this time wow, sticking with 3.8 makes me feel like im actually using a vbulletin board. when i made an update on my forum about the 4.0 look, i think my members just passed out from the uglyness. it would be just embarrassing to use and please no offense to those that think it looks good. i know its in beta stage and maybe be really good to use but for gods sake, why does it look like smf cross phpbb with a finish touch of IP.boards. you know years ago when people mention vbulletin i picture how good it looked, and was like yeah wow i'd love to own a vbulletin board, just the default its self was enough to impress me and others. people would say join his new site its a vbulletin, and strait away they were members.
some of those people has stood by me all these years have said to me "do not use 4.0" lol, now thats saying something.
vbulletin 3.0 to vbulletin 3.8 put the wow in the meaning vbulletin.
now when i see the 4.0 look, its like a fat boy fell in the mud and never got back up :D if 4.0 is going to keep that look then god help us all. if i never knew about vbulletin and say found it on google, i'd take one look and run, lets not forget the price, like omg. for 4.0 at least have the vbulletin look a tiny bit, not a copy of smf default, god ip.board and all the well known free boards must be laughing. sorry again to those whom like it. also my last sook about the look of 4.0, i'll try to tell my brain theres no such thing.

edit: i must say the CMS look amazing.

It's ok so far.

Hate it. For me its a SMF ripoff. I look also around on the official vbulletin website. It looks ugly and i know for sure, when i am going to upgrade, i will lose a lot of members. Thats why i staying for a long time with 3.8.x. This board gives you a real vbulletin feeling, looks good. But the new one. Brrrrr. Maybe it will be better in the future, but there is a lot of work to do with it before i will upgrade my forum.