Lynne - When it comes to spam I will not cut corners, And rely on the staff to take care of the spam. I like to make sure that when I report spam it's all reported even if it's by the same registrant. The reason spamming is here longer than it is is because of just that. corners and shortcuts are taken which fortunately is something I don't do in life so it's not something I do which will migrate to the forum (especially when pornographic content viewable to children) is involved.

I filed a report to vbulletin.com before I created this thread and wrote a follow up ticket after and ask yourself this. The system your applying simply isn't working because members are even having a chance to reply to such porographic threads which means it's there and no shortcuts should be taken but rather prevention and other implementations to combat this.

also, please consider locking down access to the Community Lounge to non-licenses... i don't see why they have access other than the Pre-Sales at first place, and if you read all the threads that were started on this site by non-licensed, you will see that ALL THE TIME, the mods are calling the "you show as unlicensed so you do not have to post here so we lock your thread" thing...

guests have no need to post here, it's a place to build friendship and make contact between licensed clients...

and the more place you let guests post, the more place we see spam.

and pathetically, you always comment that moderators and staff have no time to see everything on the board... cut off these capabilities and your job will be eased at 500%... if you prefer letting moderators doing all the job, just state that in the forum, that nobody will ever see the potential of vBulletin here because you let the staff do the dirty job instead of involving the filters available on the latest version of the script...

oh, yeah, sorry, you have no time to install it... tsss... sorry, forget that

I'm also technically one of those minors.

Those are only the ones that you see that are unlicensed. Quite a few posts in both forums don't get those replies, and since you are not staff, you would not know if they were started by a licensed member or not.

that's one of the things that is not good here... we can reply to someone asking for anything related to vB, and we see our efforts trashed because the OP is unlicensed... i don't say we need to see who is licensed, but why at first let them post in a place where only licensed people have the right to be... logically if the only rights you have here are the ones of licensed people, i don't see why guests can post outside the pre-sales... if they want to have a friend, they can go elsewhere... this is my boring 2?

I agree, the members should know who is licensed and who is not... What's the harm in knowing a fellow member is licensed?

I know for one I would not help people who are not licensed. I could care less who can see if I have a license, I think this should be looked at by the admins here. I also agree that the majority of the forum should be closed to unlicensed members. They have no business here if they are not licensed.

There's a difference: vBulletin help should never be given to anybody in the community lounge OR pre-sales. Yes, answers can be given in Pre-Sales, but not help.

theres a lot of great ideas and coments posted on this thread and a lot of negativity from vb.org, its almost like we didn't think of it so thats final.

This is something thats effecting members, so surely, Whats wrong with saying, yeah thats a great idea, we'll see if we can get it implimented.

I feel that certain staff members are just very negative, and will simply block out any fresh ideas or improvements recommended by members.

Like nexy says, make the comunity forums for licenced members only, perhaps others can view but they can't post, surely some thing as common sense as this can be easy to arrange?

May also be a good idea if there was a usergroup created for licienced and non licienced members, where other will be able to see, who is and who isn't ;)

Anyway guys, thats my 50c don't hate me for it :D

I agree with above, it's seems that they know best and don't care what we think at times.

I agree with your statement... it's always better to listen to your members, most of the time that is where the best ideas some from.

the "that's good and we will discuss it" sentence was used too much in the past, i think they learned to avoid it and i think it's better, because people wait less and stop asking what's the outcome.

btw, these are just suggestions in the myst, i prefer building my own sites with these details, not trying to focus on how vb.org is driven... they have their goals and targets... we're not part of it, we can not decide if they are right or not, we can even leave if we're not happy.

May I ask why this thread has been re-opened after being locked.

Is this subject open to discussion?

I'm still asking that the 60 second rule limited between reporting spam posts is changed to a more acceptable 30 seconds. This will allow members who make up the bulk of the reports to report more multiple spam with a less time limit.

The benefits of this, are that members will not walk away from spam posted 8 times and report all threads because the time limit is more acceptable and within a lower timeframe.

Like I stated, I reported 8 spam threads which I didn't have time to do but I did regardless because spam prevention should be looked at, discussed and action taken where necessary.