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SEOvB 09-29-2008 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazz (Post 1633397)
Lost $30k in washington mutual and $15k in AIG

Proof of purchases when I posted a few months ago on forums.digitalpoint.com
Yea I got screwed, so much for savings

Bank accounts are FDIC insured? Or did you have stocks?

iogames 09-29-2008 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1633405)
Ouch, that must have hurt...

i lost less, but it's time consuming...

Big ouch! you must be very upset I guess...

well the ripple effect hasn't touch me yet but I think pretty soon :(

Why I don't understand Nexy, how u can manage a business, 4 kids, post every minute here and take care of your boards? =!?!?!

p.s. Isn't out of topic, but is out of logic :confused:

Shazz 09-29-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1633405)
Ouch, that must have hurt...

i lost less, but it's time consuming...

Thats why I was complaining about vB license renews :(
Who would every think of a depression now days...
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Originally Posted by FRDS (Post 1633407)
Bank accounts are FDIC insured? Or did you have stocks?

The stocks :(

nexialys 09-29-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1633409)
Why I don't understand Nexy, how u can manage a business, 4 kids, post every minute here and take care of your boards? =!?!?!
p.s. Isn't out of topic, but is out of logic :confused:

actually i have a well structured life here... the office is in the living room, so i always have an eye on the kids. my wife work at the university 3 hours per day so that period is dedicated on the kids and fun on the net -- no serious business. and i only have 2 kids at home, the others are at school. i usually work by the evenings, or when i can... i even find the time to win the "coolest soccer team of the association" this summer as the coach!

you can't handle a good company if you have an unstable life at home, and you can't have good visibility and good mood in the market if you have no public life at all... a nerdz in his closet will never win the respect of the community.

Shazz 09-29-2008 10:15 PM

nex you can be my dad!

iogames 09-29-2008 10:17 PM

Forgot about the coaching...

But yes, it affects me since I create Legal entities for people... so for starters:

- No business loans or credits
- No ppl starting a business
- Manage some extra services on those dedicated to Real Estate
- etc...

Not hit yet, but soon ;)

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Daaang! Congress didn't approve the 'Bail-Out' now here it comes the 'after-shock'... :(

even 3 European banks fell apart :eek:

p.s. Did u retire already Shazz?

Princeton 09-30-2008 12:44 PM

some forum owners will actually make money because of the bad economy
  • many people will be off of work - so, they will be online more ... click, click, click
  • most retailers / businesses / etc will continue their online marketing efforts - some will even increase their online presence
about programmers..
only those who constantly promote their business in a positive manner will continue making money during these hard times

(some people actually hurt themselves with their activities)


What You Can Do

Promoting your business on vbulletin.org...
  • Post Helpful Comments - your comments are a direct reflection of who you are. I lot of people are turned off immediately by negative comments.
  • Create / Submit Helpful Articles - this is a great way to show people you have Knowledge - Knowledge is power
  • Create / Submit Great Products - this is the best way to build a clientele and to build your brand - brand is important
Many of the high-paying Buyers and Employers do their research before hiring.
If you lack the above - you are not making as much as you could be making.

Shazz 09-30-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iogames (Post 1633490)

p.s. Did u retire already Shazz?

No, I now have a full time job.

nexialys 09-30-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Princeton (Post 1633858)
What You Should Do

Promoting your business on vbulletin.org...

wrong... we have no ability to directly promote our business on vb.org, and even if we post properly, are useful to the community and have a good reputation here, this is nothing to help our own business.

the reason is simple: the only things we can release here are free stuff any good coder can code. if you're not to do it, someone else will -- so for a job this is the same, if you are like the others, if you are not good enough for the job, they will take someone else who can do the same.

also, having a good reputation here is complicated, because you have to follow so much rules to be respected that it worth no effort to do so. most of the real coders here are good admins or at least good coders, that does not mean they will be hired for their potential... you can post a good article without being able to apply the whole thing in your job.

as we are not ranked for our efforts on the community (the "Thanks Posts" would be a ranking of it), there is nobody in the market who can rate your potential here. the number of releases have no meaning, you can have a 5 lines code downloaded 5000 times without being a chef-d'oeuvre of coding. and from what i see lately, there is a bunch of releases that are made from the clients, not the coders, and are unsupported... the clients wants to have exclusive ownership of the codes, so they release it for the image... pathetic but not new.

One of the good thing to find a good market though is to act on your own AND participate here and there... i did not gain the reputation i have only by posting on vb.org -- i received too much warnings here to be a proof of behaviorism.. lol you also have to promote yourself outside the shell and show that you're better than the others... releasing small hacks is nothing worth the effort, as from point one, anybody can do it... and if you have a team that do the job for you, it worth even less... you have to raise your head, be better, ahead of the others.

(and be prepared to answer stupid requests from people with cash)

Princeton 09-30-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1633869)
wrong... we have no ability to directly promote our business on vb.org, and even if we post properly, are useful to the community and have a good reputation here, this is nothing to help our own business.

I'm sure you'll agree with me when I say - vBulletin.org is the busiest vbulletin programming site.

Whether you believe me or now...

What you say or do here (attitude) does reflect your bottom line.

Your attitude (talking in general terms here) is a reflection of who your are and how your run things. At least that's the perception that people will see. Another way to look at it - you are the representative of your brand.

I'm not saying that you are not making money - per your business. All I'm saying is that you can make MORE money.

With a great attitude and a good plan, your job opportunities will increase.

The idea is to stand out.

If you think your 'structure' works for you then continue with that. Only YOU know what works for you.


Quote:

(and be prepared to answer stupid requests from people with cash)
I see similar comments a lot by other coders - comments such as these always surprise me

as a business, you should refrain my making such comments - these types of comments will cause you to loose jobs (whether you know it or not)

Why would you talk about your customers (or potential customers) in such a negative manner? As a business owner, why would I do business with you if this is how you will treat me (or possibly treat me)?

just something to think about


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