hmmm, I must grow a beard or get rid of my practically dead IPB site then :p

The biggest problem I have is when other forum softwares try to mimic vBulletin's features, but don't do it properly. So use to vBulletin's system that it drives me crazy trying to search/edit/modify. Its either vBulletin or old school simple forums.

Its also frusturating using software that has been poorly put together, which is about everything out there, compared to vB. Installation scripts, backends all just seem unorganized and sloppy.

*Snorts with laughter*

It is always good to look also at other software, you might pick up some ideas.

Everytime i look at a forum, if it's not vbulletin i cringe and usually close that tab right away :(, i think i have a problem

I've been through a great deal in the past and vBulletin, since 1.x.x has been my top choice. I've used UBB, MyBB, MyTopix, IkonBoard, IPB, MiniBB, XMB and countless others....in the end, the software alone justifies the cost; hands down.

I've converted both my long term sites from .threads to vB in the past year or so; I'm very happy with vB and see no reason to change.

That said, my only "complaint" would be the skin that vB3 comes with and that there is only one. It seems that out of the box, vBulletins design is not very 'clean' with its awkward buttons and very simple color layout. A couple choices would be nice so that new users don't have to go through the whole learning curve of finding/buying new skins.