I have never banned anybody from vbulletin.org. I doubt you'd be my first choice. But that is off topic and I know you don't like off topic posts; so I'll shut up now :D

ok. off to figure out what I want to do to work around this.

They won't let me admin here, you're safe.

Actually, this is a great thread. I'm sorry for busting on Amy.

place the "select" in a layer and hide the layer when you display the menu

A "layer" is a deprecated Netscape-only element that will be cause validation errors with most DOCTYPES. The DOM version of a "layer" is a DIV, and DIVs are not exempt from the "IE select z-index" error.

The principle is sound, though, and that's why I think I ended up with putting my selects in an IFRAME for one particular project. Looking at amy's screenshots, I don't think that will work in her case, though.

that's what I meant ... yes, it does work

we are merely changing the display to "none"

Ah. In that case, you probably wouldn't even need the DIV, you could toggle the CSS "display" on the TD element holding the SELECT. In fact, you could probably toggle it on the SELECT itself.

There could be rendering problems with "display: none". I'd suggest instead, toggling "visible: hidden/visible".

correct :D

I suggest testing on the platform that will be used (intranet).

The iframe trick seemed to work, (thank you) but I'm willing to try toggling the visible and invisible property too because that would probably be easier with all the stupid form elements I have to deal with.

Of course, when I pass this off to the stylist, I'm going to have to explain why that has to stay there, but that shouldn't be too difficult.