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The Chief 05-15-2006 05:17 PM

Looks cool but isn't much advantage for a already well established board, maybe good for beginning, might use with another one of my forums :)

mat64 05-15-2006 06:11 PM

Interesting, Don't really see how it could be used for me though. Nice work.

Rich 05-15-2006 06:22 PM

Some of us worked our asses off to build up our sites and our stats and now competitors can just come in and fudge their own stats to make their site more appealing. I personally think this mod sucks and wish Floris never released it. Those of us that had to work hard for our stats just got a good screwing with this one.

Bro_Joey_Gowdy 05-15-2006 06:31 PM

Nice hack. I could see this being useful :

1. if someone might have lost all their threads due to being hacked and/or accidently deleted and they needed it to temporarly restore their thread/post count while they restored those deleted threads/posts.

2. if their downloaded backup file was too huge to upload/restore and they needed to enter everything manually by editing the thread owner/posts with a hack like this : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=98737

Otherwise it's just cheating ;) and cheaters never prosper :P

MentaL 05-15-2006 06:32 PM

hope this doesnt alter with big-boards.

Floris 05-15-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sensimilla
:D does it allow to cheat on big-boards ? 500 000 posts and more ? :D :D

funny hack thanks Floris

I do not know the TOS/AUP from big-boards.com, I can imagine they do not condone cheating and this is not made to support those actions.

It is initially made for smaller / new sites to give an impression of being active.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Injektilo
great idea and ofcourse great work Floris... :) installed

:banana: of course


Quote:

Originally Posted by XtAzY
what if everyone uses this and cheats on bigboard?

The dead will walk the earth. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by sensimilla
It doesnt update vbadvanced CMPS module ;)

That's right. It is not written to support third party plugins at all.


Quote:

Originally Posted by HR3rdGen
Why? I'd much rather make it look like users are online currently.

Yes, but those are different statistics, and in the first post it mentions exactly what it does do .. which means everything: it doesn't do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Ripsta
What the hell... Is this truly a hack 'cause it sounds funny to me.

No, this is not a hack, it is a plugin. A hack is when you modify an existing feature or change source code to get new functionality. This is updating a variable from an existing feature by using a hook to insert code at a specific location inside the forum software. I have no idea what your motivation is to post your comment in this thread.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chief
Looks cool but isn't much advantage for a already well established board, maybe good for beginning, might use with another one of my forums :)

Not trying to be a pain here, but obviously I've covered this:
Quote:

This plugin helps new communities boost their activity by pretending they are bigger and more active.

Invalid ID 05-15-2006 06:56 PM

Nice job

Floris 05-15-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich
Some of us worked our asses off to build up our sites and our stats and now competitors can just come in and fudge their own stats to make their site more appealing. I personally think this mod sucks and wish Floris never released it. Those of us that had to work hard for our stats just got a good screwing with this one.

Thank you, I appriciate constructive feedback.. and your post qualifies. As mentioned however in the first post this is a resource someone requested and I've created it and was so kind to share it. Users are free to use it or not. Even you, who work very hard at a busy site, could use this to give a more solid impression. If you have a morale objection against that I can understand, I am fine with everything you do.

New sites could simply show 100 members, 100 posts and wait for new members to make real activity. Then they can turn it off .. this just gives them a boost. There really is no use setting it to 1000 posts and members and have someone register and not find a single member or post. They will feel cheated in and will close the browser and walk away.

These type of options added to a community are always a 50/50. Half of the admins love this (well, at least like it) and half of them don't.

This was already released in private a year ago but not in the form of a plugin. And many sites are already using my code. And this was out on vBulletin Fans Network for a while already and today I've just decided to also share it with this community.

I hope people who think they need this will use it and enjoy it. And stop using it once they no longer need it.

And just for comparison against an already existing feature. And another plugin for that matter. vBulletin allows you to change the cookie time. There are a lot of sites who set this to 7200 or load the 'users who visited today' plugin as 'who are online right now', giving incorrect values in regards to activity.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro_Joey_Gowdy
Nice hack. I could see this being useful :

1. if someone might have lost all their threads due to being hacked and/or accidently deleted and they needed it to temporarly restore their thread/post count while they restored those deleted threads/posts.

2. if their downloaded backup file was too huge to upload/restore and they needed to enter everything manually by editing the thread owner/posts with a hack like this : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=98737

Otherwise it's just cheating ;) and cheaters never prosper :P

Another few good examples where people could use this. The possibilities besides using this to cheat activity are endless :D

Chroder 05-15-2006 07:03 PM

It's a great little plugin that'll make new sites seem not so new. Just like many new forums are starting to hire some posters, or create their own fake posters to get the ball rolling. This is in the same toolbox IMO ;)

You can't use it to fake bigboards or anything like that, but I'll get the ball rolling for new admins.

Good work Floris :D

Floris 05-15-2006 07:08 PM

Thanks Chroder for those kind words.


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