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nexialys 12-29-2005 03:07 PM
... i really don't appreciate people that always complain about words like "nazi" or "punk" or jewish" ... please, complaining about these words uses IS a proof of racism and it's really what makes these words horrible to read.

go to google and search for "nazi" ... search also on wikipedia or any good web resources, and you will have loads or references to that word... 99% of them are NOT propaganda...

if you can't live with different opinions, you will have to learn a little... ok, maybe it's an american way to deal with what they want to fear ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lottis
Thank you amykhar, fore charing that discussion.
Perhaps i was being sensitive. But i was looking at his site to make up my mind why he was using those words, that actually pissed me really off.
The first discussion i was reading, was ;Im happy to bee wite. Ore another "Black peopel are stupid". Then i got angry.
problem here is that you don't have to go to his site and read its content to evaluate the real HACK itself... vB.org guys will NEVER visit a coder's website to evaluate if a hack can be displayed or not, and that's what you want them to do...

EDIT: this Lottis Quote was made before he delete his own post, so it's not an illusion!

Lottis 12-29-2005 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexialys
... i really don't appreciate people that always complain about words like "nazi" or "punk" or jewish" ... please, complaining about these words uses IS a proof of racism and it's really what makes these words horrible to read.
Why does it have to be sutch words in it?
You guyes make good hacks and actually dont need to put affesive words in it to get attention ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nexialys
... i really don't appreciate people that always complain about words like "nazi" or "punk" or jewish" ... please, complaining about these words uses IS a proof of racism and it's really what makes these words horrible to read.

go to google and search for "nazi" ... search also on wikipedia or any good web resources, and you will have loads or references to that word... 99% of them are NOT propaganda...

if you can't live with different opinions, you will have to learn a little... ok, maybe it's an american way to deal with what they want to fear ...


problem here is that you don't have to go to his site and read its content to evaluate the real HACK itself... vB.org guys will NEVER visit a coder's website to evaluate if a hack can be displayed or not, and that's what you want them to do...

EDIT: this Lottis Quote was made before he delete his own post, so it's not an illusion!
Well it was fore a reason i deleted it. And you quoted me in a second.

amykhar 12-29-2005 03:15 PM
Nexis, he deleted because I deleted and rephrased. :)

Lottis 12-29-2005 03:16 PM
By the way, Nexialys. Im neather a he ore a american.

nexialys 12-29-2005 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amykhar
Nexis, he deleted because I deleted and rephrased. :)
god i'm too quick !!

(and no, using the word GOD don't make me a religious guy --> i'ts just a referee!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lottis
By the way, Nexialys. Im neather a he ore a american.
good then.. lol... She, from the other part of the world that is not american...

(am i just joking here?!... yes yes... this is christmas time!)

Paul M 12-29-2005 03:18 PM
If you don't like them, change them, or don't use the hack. No one is forcing you to use it.

Corriewf 12-29-2005 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amykhar
Stepping in here because I noticed the complaint yesterday and we are actively discussing the issue on my own forum. First off, I didn't find the terms offensive and thought the complaint was an oversensitivity. Upon discussion with some very rational people though, I have learned that many people DO find it offensive.

http://www.eaforums.com/forums/sympo...offensive.html

At this point, I'm of the opinion that you don't want your code to insult people or tick them off. If your members are fine with it, leave the words as is. But, because somebody has said they were bothered by the posting of those word choices here, I think the polite thing to do would be to change them here. No harm, no foul. Just good manners.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter.
Amy I love your avatars!

Yes, use of those words in a CERTAIN context would be offensive, but the actual word it self is not profane or derogatory. Everyday in high schools around the world they teach about nazis for history class. My Grandpa (WW2 Vet), would roll in his grave about the censorship of this word.

Nazi(s) is a political term for a once existing political party. Would you censor Republican and Democrat? If it was maybe KKK and not a political term that is so pivotable to world history, then I would agree of its offensiveness.

Ignorance is indeed not bliss.

Btw, ignorance is not offensive either as it pertains to specific situations. :)

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

Regs 12-29-2005 03:33 PM
How many other reported post subject matter are used for discussion topics on other forums?

Is that offensive or rude? I dunno... on the one hand I don't really see too much of a problem but then when I see the "complaint" was marginalized (... "rather rudely"...) it kinda irks me for some reason.

Lottis 12-29-2005 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul M
If you don't like them, change them, or don't use the hack. No one is forcing you to use it.
Im aware of that. Thank you, Paul M. I dont really understand why it have to bee words that affends other in it. This is not a complaining about the hack it self. But offcourse it could be me who is being sensitive.

The word nazi to me, is something terribel. And when its reapeted like that, i know its to show how things work, but fore me it is a very bad thing.

Sorry fore complaining about this, but its fore a reason.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corriewf
Everyday in high schools around the world they teach about nazis for history class. My Grandpa (WW2 Vet), would roll in his grave about the censorship of this word.
Its perhaps the way the word is used.
Im not interested to discuss religion ore the wars. But i think ore i know my grandpa (WW2) is discusted by the word. ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regs
How many other reported post subject matter are used for discussion topics on other forums?

Is that offensive or rude? I dunno... on the one hand I don't really see too much of a problem but then when I see the "complaint" was marginalized (... "rather rudely"...) it kinda irks me for some reason.
I asked nicly first. ;) And i dont mean to be rude. This does bother me alot, thats why i reacted. And like i said,perhaps im being sensitive.

Corriewf 12-29-2005 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lottis
Im aware of that. Thank you, Paul M. I dont really understand why it have to bee words that affends other in it. This is not a complaining about the hack it self. But offcourse it could be me who is being sensitive.

The word nazi to me, is something terribel. And when its reapeted like that, i know its to show how things work, but fore me it is a very bad thing.

Sorry fore complaining about this, but its fore a reason.

There are a lot of words out there that are terrible, yet not offending. I hate the word "bills", but that is due to the fact that they cost me money. :p

I am sure that if it was used in an offensive context, it would of been removed.

Not to insult or belittle, but it appears that you may not be very fluent in English. Could it be that the word was taken out of context?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lottis
Its perhaps the way the word is used.
Im not interested to discuss religion ore the wars. But i think ore i know my grandpa (WW2) is discusted by the word. ;)
He was disgusted by the ACTIONS of the Nazis, he would be even more disgusted by the ignorance of their existence.

Some people may or may not agree with war as a viable resolution, but we dont censor the word soldier. :)


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