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Rick Sample 12-23-2005 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Bolton
It's a bit of a funny one that really, because in some countries it's accepted and legal to smoke it.

Not to mention that some need it for medical reasons. So it is 'legal' for some.

TyleR 12-23-2005 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
Not to mention that some need it for medical reasons. So it is 'legal' for some.

it's not legal in the US for any reason.

Just a shame though, that you weren't able to get it..its an awesome product.

AWI 12-23-2005 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TyleR
it's not legal in the US for any reason.

Just a shame though, that you weren't able to get it..its an awesome product.


Not true Denver, Colorado it is legal for those 21 and older up to 1 ounce in city limits. Just another reason to call the city the Mile High city :nervous:

BamaStangGuy 12-23-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by yayvb
Ok I see the last vbseo thread was closed I guess because people were not
being nice to eachother. I just wanted to let everyone know about my
unhappiness with them. I purchased the script yesterday, and about 40
hours later I get a private message from vbseo staff saying that they won't
sell me the script because my content is not allowed.

I run a vbulletin community website for people that like Marijuana. :) I'm
sorry if you don't agree with what I and many others believe, but I think it is
messed up to deny someone a script that is being sold to others just
because you may not want my site to be optimized? I don't know the exact
reasoning, maybe because they don't want their link on the bottom of the
page on a marijuana site?

I really wanted to try and see if I could notice a difference, I spent the $150
and now I guess they're going to refund it hopefully since they won't give me
the script.

Is there anything that I could easily do that vbulletin doesn't already do to
make my website more prominent in the engines?

It is not about not wanting your site to be "optimized" it is about not wanting their product associated with something they do not agree with or support.

You may not like it however it is their right as a business to choose to do this.

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Originally Posted by AWI
Seems to me the content of his site is not adult oriented and not illegal. I would understand if his site involved pornography but I guess the people at vBSeo want to push their opinions/beliefs on their potential customers and censor the use which is bad business. It's a shame because it works great...like Zach said I hope someone comes out with the same or better version and of course open source would be nice.

You know... you cry because they wish to "push" their beliefs on others yet you are putting them down for their right to have this belief and too stand up for something they believe in. That is what this country is about right? Someone can make a product, that represents them as a company, and they should have a right to control who uses their product and how the person uses. Whether or not it will reflect badly on their company in their eyes.

I do not understand how this is discrimination. He is not denying them this product because of sex or skin color. He is denying them this product because their site has content on it that he does not wish to have his name associated with.

When it first came out there was a guy denied because he ran an aduly themed site. I too thought at the time it was a horrible business practice and he shouldn't do this. Now however I understand why they chose to do this and since buying it I could not be happier with the friendly support, the prompt response to questions, and amazing features that come with the software. The ease of use is amazing.

Your opinion that it is "bad business" is hardly provable... they seem to be doing pretty well to me. They have my business and support. I could not be happier.

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It's a bit of a funny one that really, because in some countries it's accepted and legal to smoke it.
This is not about whether or not it is illegal. This is about whether or not VBSEO wants to have their product associated with something that is of nature as this.

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As for VBSEO, I think that it is a joke to what they are charging for that software. The hack itself is just as much as the Vbulletin software. So would I purchase it at $150? No! Would I try it out if it were only $20-$30, most definetly. If I didn't like it or if it caused to many problems, I would just uninstall it.
What is a joke to one is Gold to another. It has many features in it you won't find in any other vbulletin SEO hack. It is EASILY customizable and EASILY installed. Not to mention that their Sitemap hack plugs right into this and uses the rewritten urls flawlessly. It allows easy rewrites of all non vb scripts as well as redirecting the archive thread links to the actual thread content, reducing duplicate content and directing traffic directly to the real thread instead of some vanilla plan thread. It has smart filtering for showpost threads and does not allow spidering of printthread urls.

It is slowly expanding into more than just a basic URL rewriting script.

jugo 12-23-2005 02:59 AM

If you ask me, they are violating your Fist ammendment rights somehow. Because for them to deny selling you a product merely on the content of your forums is, in my opinion, biased and i'm sure illegal.

But hey, Marijuana is not good for you so i'm torn....

BamaStangGuy 12-23-2005 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jugo
If you ask me, they are violating your Fist ammendment rights somehow. Because for them to deny selling you a product merely on the content of your forums is, in my opinion, biased and i'm sure illegal.

But hey, Marijuana is not good for you so i'm torn....

No rights being violated.

If this were the case select shared hosting and not to mention free web hosting sites would not be able to prevent adult websites from being hosted on their servers. Adult websites are legal yet they have the power to deny them, which they should have the right to. It is their property, their work, and theirs to choose who to provide the service too.

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Originally Posted by Rick Sample
Not to mention that some need it for medical reasons. So it is 'legal' for some.

Denver police may not arrest you for less than 1 ounce but you step outside their city limits and you will face possession charges.

TyleR 12-23-2005 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AWI
Not true Denver, Colorado it is legal for those 21 and older up to 1 ounce in city limits. Just another reason to call the city the Mile High city :nervous:

Way doubtful..show me somewhere on a official Denver, CO page that shows this, as I used to live in Denver myself, and am moving back there within the next month, and never once heard of such law.

PennylessZ28 12-23-2005 03:18 AM

I disagree with most of you. I'm a christian and if it was my script I wouldn't sell it to you either. Its A RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE.

I wouldn't want my service assoicated with things that don't line up with my beliefs. Whatever you believe is your business, but I have the right to chose who I do and do not do business with, so does VBSEO.

AWI 12-23-2005 04:03 AM

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You know... you cry because they wish to "push" their beliefs on others yet you are putting them down for their right to have this belief and too stand up for something they believe in. That is what this country is about right? Someone can make a product, that represents them as a company, and they should have a right to control who uses their product and how the person uses. Whether or not it will reflect badly on their company in their eyes.

I do not understand how this is discrimination. He is not denying them this product because of sex or skin color. He is denying them this product because their site has content on it that he does not wish to have his name associated with.

When it first came out there was a guy denied because he ran an aduly themed site. I too thought at the time it was a horrible business practice and he shouldn't do this. Now however I understand why they chose to do this and since buying it I could not be happier with the friendly support, the prompt response to questions, and amazing features that come with the software. The ease of use is amazing.

Your opinion that it is "bad business" is hardly provable... they seem to be doing pretty well to me. They have my business and support. I could not be happier.
You must have been informed about the way this country stands...it is not alright for a company to refuse to sell their products to another person just because they think marijuana is wrong or bad. The law also say Creed..which means your beliefs and opinions..and the customers opinion is obviously he is pro-marijuana..either way life goes on and it is bad business ethics on such a low level. According to you a company can make a product and sell it to white people only and refusing to sell to other races or to only sell to Chritians and not Jews...that is not what this country is about..I really can;t think of any other product online that you buy that give stipulations on what kinda site it can be used on...

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Originally Posted by TyleR
Way doubtful..show me somewhere on a official Denver, CO page that shows this, as I used to live in Denver myself, and am moving back there within the next month, and never once heard of such law.


From what I was told from a friend in Denver they just passed it I think the begining of this month by majority vote. Read for yourself :)

Click Click Click

TyleR 12-23-2005 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AWI
From what I was told from a friend in Denver they just passed it I think the begining of this month by majority vote. Read for yourself :)

Click Click Click

I stand corrected..now I guess I can't wait til I turn 21 to be able to drink and smoke the reefer :surprised:


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