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Instance Management in the AdminCP -> Edit.

If the DBTech - vBShout group isn't visible, add yourself to Super Administrators in config.php :)

Fillip

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Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2332501)

Instance Management in the AdminCP -> Edit.

Fillip

Perfect, thank you. :)

A very nice chatbox with solid features, thank you! Here are some additions and changes I?d love to see:

Chat Field Orientation: The option to change where the input box is placed relative to the chat output. Right now, the input is in a rather unconventional left-side orientation, when almost every other chatroom and IM program places the input box below the chat output. Having an option for a Left, Bottom, Top, or Right input box would be spectacular!
Selective Archiving: I adore the ?new thread/reply? notifications, but I hate how they end up cluttering your archive! The option to determine what is saved in the archive would be great. I for one would uncheck everything except the actual chat messages.
Selective History: When you first come to the forum, you can see ~20 past messages in the shoutbox, depending on the shoutbox?s settings. This includes shouts and notifications. If the shoutbox hasn?t been particularly active, this history may be nothing more than a list of new threads/replies and ?User has reached X posts!? I only see notifications as useful to those who are currently using the shoutbox when the notification event happens, not for people who arrive a day or two later. That?s what ?What?s New?? is for. This option would work in tandem with Selective Archiving, and might even be the same thing. Despite loving the notification feature, I had to completely turn it off because it was overwhelming the shoutbox, burying people?s shouts into obscurity and isolating possible conversations.
Hook into any/all pages: I know I can manually edit the template pages that I?d like the shoutbox to appear on, but with every vB update comes a template thrashing, so I?d like to keep my template modifications to an absolute minimum. It?d be extremely helpful if vbShout came with a list of pages you could select for it to automatically appear on. Alternatively, a collapsible, hovering frame, as seen in the Ideal Chat mod and Facebook?s chat system, would be just as good, if not better in some cases. I think a chatbox is most effective when users have easy, immediate access to it. As it stands right now, users can either use the shoutbox and ignore the forum, or browse the forum and miss out on the shoutbox. You cannot effectively do both at the same time.
Buttons above the input box: This is simply a matter of consistency with vBulletin itself. Having the buttons below the input box when everywhere else on the forum, from posting to sending PMs, BB code and other buttons are always above the text field, is confusing and uncomfortable. When I was first checking out vbShout?s screenshots, I thought the picture was cut off at the bottom, because I didn?t recognize the big empty square on the lefthand side to be the input field! In my own install of vbShout, I?ve actually completely disabled all the BB code buttons just because I hated how it looked.
Oldest First in Archive: In the shoutbox, you have a sorting choice between Newest or Oldest First. The archive is always Newest First. It?d be nice to have the option, or at least for the archive to follow the same sorting preference as the shoutbox.
Edit/Delete in Archive: As an admin, I can ?Report Shout?? But not delete or otherwise edit like I can in the shoutbox itself?

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Chat Field Orientation: The option to change where the input box is placed relative to the chat output. Right now, the input is in a rather unconventional left-side orientation, when almost every other chatroom and IM program places the input box below the chat output. Having an option for a Left, Bottom, Top, or Right input box would be spectacular!

This is a Pro-only option :)

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Selective Archiving: I adore the “new thread/reply” notifications, but I hate how they end up cluttering your archive! The option to determine what is saved in the archive would be great. I for one would uncheck everything except the actual chat messages.

Selective History: When you first come to the forum, you can see ~20 past messages in the shoutbox, depending on the shoutbox’s settings. This includes shouts and notifications. If the shoutbox hasn’t been particularly active, this history may be nothing more than a list of new threads/replies and “User has reached X posts!” I only see notifications as useful to those who are currently using the shoutbox when the notification event happens, not for people who arrive a day or two later. That’s what “What’s New?” is for. This option would work in tandem with Selective Archiving, and might even be the same thing. Despite loving the notification feature, I had to completely turn it off because it was overwhelming the shoutbox, burying people’s shouts into obscurity and isolating possible conversations.

Interesting features, you should re-post them over at our forum (www.dragonbyte-tech.com) to ensure they are entered into our issue tracking forum and properly taken into consideration :)

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Hook into any/all pages: I know I can manually edit the template pages that I’d like the shoutbox to appear on, but with every vB update comes a template thrashing, so I’d like to keep my template modifications to an absolute minimum. It’d be extremely helpful if vbShout came with a list of pages you could select for it to automatically appear on. Alternatively, a collapsible, hovering frame, as seen in the Ideal Chat mod and Facebook’s chat system, would be just as good, if not better in some cases. I think a chatbox is most effective when users have easy, immediate access to it. As it stands right now, users can either use the shoutbox and ignore the forum, or browse the forum and miss out on the shoutbox. You cannot effectively do both at the same time.

Adding 10 characters is hardly a huge modification ;)

We used to allow people to determine what pages it should be automatically inserted on, as opposed to auto on index and everywhere else manual, but the volume of support request for detailed instructions as to how to achieve their perfect setup made it way too un-user friendly :(

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Buttons above the input box: This is simply a matter of consistency with vBulletin itself. Having the buttons below the input box when everywhere else on the forum, from posting to sending PMs, BB code and other buttons are always above the text field, is confusing and uncomfortable. When I was first checking out vbShout’s screenshots, I thought the picture was cut off at the bottom, because I didn’t recognize the big empty square on the lefthand side to be the input field! In my own install of vbShout, I’ve actually completely disabled all the BB code buttons just because I hated how it looked.

I'm not entirely sure whether we can reliably make this optional as well, without making the actual display code too complex. We'll see :)

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Oldest First in Archive: In the shoutbox, you have a sorting choice between Newest or Oldest First. The archive is always Newest First. It’d be nice to have the option, or at least for the archive to follow the same sorting preference as the shoutbox.

That would cause huge problems with pagination code, so unfortunately I don't think this will be added :(

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

Edit/Delete in Archive: As an admin, I can “Report Shout”? But not delete or otherwise edit like I can in the shoutbox itself?

This is a Pro-only feature :)

How do I put an instance on a different page?

My site is fantasyhockeycoach.com and I want an instance in the forum which I have but I also want another instance on the FHC Pools tab for trash talking in hockey pools. How can I place an instance there?

I don't know why, but this is how mine is appearing. I installed it and made no edits to templates. I did use the repair cache feature twice too.

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Originally Posted by fanhockeycoach (Post 2334773)

To put vBShout in a custom location, do the following:

Step 1: AdminCP -> DBTech - vBShout-> Instance Management -> [Edit].

Step 2: Change the Auto-Display Shoutbox setting to Disabled.

Step 3: Write down the the Varname setting. For the default shoutbox, it's instance1. The rest of this guide will assume you replace instance1 with the actual Varname if it is different.

Step 4: Enter the Style Manager and add either {vb:raw show.vbshout_instance1} (vB4) or {$show[vbshout_instance1]} (vB3) to the templates you wish the shoutbox to appear in.

Follow these steps as described and you will have total control over the position of the Shoutbox.
Please note that some locations may not work as intended on vBulletin 3.8, and also note that it is not designed to go in the Forum Blocks side-bar (vBulletin 4).

Hope that helps :)

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Originally Posted by Chadi (Post 2334809)

I don't know why, but this is how mine is appearing. I installed it and made no edits to templates. I did use the repair cache feature twice too.

Please turn off IE7 compatibility mode :)

Fillip

Thanks, but I was viewing using Firefox 12, not IE7.

But where on style manager do I go to add it to a specific page?

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Originally Posted by midnightpariah (Post 2334761)

I know I can manually edit the template pages that I?d like the shoutbox to appear on, but with every vB update comes a template thrashing, so I?d like to keep my template modifications to an absolute minimum.

This is a big problem with vB. But, there's also a solution for it. :)

TMS (template modifications system) works and solves this problem. :up:

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