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TosaInu 01-17-2011 04:53 PM

The cache is a blessing, but sometimes it makes pull your hair.

I don't know how long it takes to update the cache, I'm still seeing zeros.

But on the testboard it's not running a cache:

Average visits to this page
Hourly 0.00 Daily 0.01 Weekly 0.05 Monthly 0.22 Yearly 2.63

Isn't that displaying it the wrong way? I expect hourly views to rise faster than yearly views?

Hmm, I'm putting it wrong. Those are totals/averages for a hour-year right? When I do a fresh install with all counters set to zero, I guess I would see the hourly counter to go up first. ... erm... is it because our site is over 11 years old already with all old average data being 0? I can see hourly visits stay at 0 then, there will be loads of 0 visit hours in 11 years.

Edit: I set it to yesterdays date, reset the counter to 0 and did a few page refreshes
Average visits to this page
Hourly 0.25 Daily 6.05 Weekly 42.33 Monthly 183.93 Yearly 2,207.15

It doesn't make much sense to me? Shed some light on this please?

It's going to be query intensive I guess (though you can probably go around that with a cron that updates it once an hour). There would be 5 fields: one for an hourly counter and that gets life update. A field for day, week, month, year. After each hour the cron adds the hour value to the day value and the hour is reset to 0. After 24 hours the data from day is copied to week and resets to 0. And so on. That makes it totals and not averages.

horussjr 01-17-2011 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horussjr (Post 2149445)
oh, dont be silly. take a look at this then go to the site and look at that
IN ADMIN CP
Site Life Status Startup Date 14 Sep 2007 16:48
IN FORUM
Site Startup Date Friday, 14 September, 2007 at 16:48
Site Age 3 years, 4 seconds

bump.... can you help me or not?

Boofo 01-17-2011 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horussjr (Post 2150580)
bump.... can you help me or not?

14 Sep 2007 16:48 works fine for me. You either edited the js file or something else to cause it to mess up. Undo whatever you did and that will fix it. How's that for "silly"?

Boofo 01-17-2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TosaInu (Post 2150551)
The cache is a blessing, but sometimes it makes pull your hair.

I don't know how long it takes to update the cache, I'm still seeing zeros.

But on the testboard it's not running a cache:

Average visits to this page
Hourly 0.00 Daily 0.01 Weekly 0.05 Monthly 0.22 Yearly 2.63

Isn't that displaying it the wrong way? I expect hourly views to rise faster than yearly views?

Hmm, I'm putting it wrong. Those are totals/averages for a hour-year right? When I do a fresh install with all counters set to zero, I guess I would see the hourly counter to go up first. ... erm... is it because our site is over 11 years old already with all old average data being 0? I can see hourly visits stay at 0 then, there will be loads of 0 visit hours in 11 years.

Edit: I set it to yesterdays date, reset the counter to 0 and did a few page refreshes
Average visits to this page
Hourly 0.25 Daily 6.05 Weekly 42.33 Monthly 183.93 Yearly 2,207.15

It doesn't make much sense to me? Shed some light on this please?


It's going to be query intensive I guess (though you can probably go around that with a cron that updates it once an hour). There would be 5 fields: one for an hourly counter and that gets life update. A field for day, week, month, year. After each hour the cron adds the hour value to the day value and the hour is reset to 0. After 24 hours the data from day is copied to week and resets to 0. And so on. That makes it totals and not averages.

You haven't set the hits counter yet. Look at your settings. The averages are working properly.

TosaInu 01-17-2011 07:31 PM

This one Boofo? Site Life Status Forumhome Page Views Counter.

Something like the active users template isn't held back by the Cache. The Sidebar in the Suite gets refreshed with new content and so does forumviews. So, there should be an possibility somewhere?

The currently active users are served from the FORUMHOME template. My 1st guess is that that template is somehow exempted from the cache.

Paul M made hacks to show users who were online in the last 24 hours. I'm at best an armchair coder myself, but I guess he got some plugins that arrange cache for his templates and those bypass other cache systems.

I just installed his hack and then logged in with an useraccount: the page was updated immediately with the new name, despite the cache.

Boofo 01-17-2011 07:53 PM

When you figure out how to have the datastore work like that with caching enabled, please let me know.

TosaInu 01-17-2011 08:08 PM

:)

I'm sure you've searched high and low already Boofo.

When and if I ever figure it out, I'll let you know.

Boofo 01-17-2011 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TosaInu (Post 2150647)
:)

I'm sure you've searched high and low already Boofo.

When and if I ever figure it out, I'll let you know.

That's just one of the trade-offs for using a cache on the site. You are going to find a few other places that this happens when using a caching system. It really doesn't matter as long as the counter gets updated properly so it shows correctly when the cache updates. The only way around it is to use a query to pull it on each page update but that defeats the purpose of putting it in the datastore.

TosaInu 01-17-2011 09:01 PM

Running queries each time isn't great either Boofo.

There's also a cron and query option. The hack is on my page for a day now and it's still zero. I've no idea how long the memcache is going to last, it's a day already.

I'ld like a modification where the views for the actual day are displayed and the total views since the site is created. A cron could update/flush (I've little idea what's going on) the daily data once an hour and the total will be updated once a day (the daily one is then reset to zero).

I'm guessing I miss something special about the datastore too?

Boofo 01-17-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TosaInu (Post 2150677)
Running queries each time isn't great either Boofo.

There's also a cron and query option. The hack is on my page for a day now and it's still zero. I've no idea how long the memcache is going to last, it's a day already.

I'ld like a modification where the views for the actual day are displayed and the total views since the site is created. A cron could update/flush (I've little idea what's going on) the daily data once an hour and the total will be updated once a day (the daily one is then reset to zero).

I'm guessing I miss something special about the datastore too?

You're not understanding how this works. The counter IS getting updated with each page view. It is your caching that is keeping it from showing the proper count right now. You will need to look at your cache settings to see when the cache gets updated. Since this is a free modification, I have no plans to add anything else to it.


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