Obsessing? I made one post. Yes it's incredibly busy.. Why don't you worry about how you run your forum and I'll worry about mine. I know what works on mine. This is about the mod's features -- having it accessed by supermods and not only admins. No I don't want to use infractions for this because it defeats the point of them seeing their infractions (and hiding the power of MM). If you use infractions with MM, you basically can't use it for anything else.

You're arguing against the usefulness of this mod... It IS quite useful, and if mods can permanently BAN a member, they surely should be able to make them MM (which is a slightly lower action to take).

I might be wrong, but I am thinking that in your moderator permissions you can allow "manage usergroups" and this will allow them to put users in the "Miserable Users" usergroup.

Unfortunately, that option doesn't exist.

Yes if you make them Super Moderators, you can permission them to manage usergroups. Therefore they will be able to place users in this MU group.

There is no such ability in default vBulletin.

So... They would have to make them a administrator, and set permissions the same as a super moderator, or even less - with the exception of the ability to manage usergroups?

Could they create a new usergroup based off the administrator usergroup, call it something like "Board Moderator" and do the same thing?

Thanks for the suggestion, but this won't work (I already tried it). There are some features administrators have that cannot be turned off. They unfortunately can't be made to just have mod powers.

I have one such administrator, done this way so he could manage only smilies. And that's all he has powers for above and beyond a moderator. But then again I use v3.8.7 not v4 so, maybe there's a difference there.

Just a quickie on this, but I never realised this until today when I caught someone doing it.

Miserable users doesn't work on the archive. Meaning people smart enough (as my user was) can at least READ posts by using the archive link.

I fixed this by copying the contacts of the Miserable Users plugin at global_bootstrap_init_start, into a new plugin at archive_global.

It *seems* to work ok, I haven't done extensive testing though so don't blame me if anything goes wrong. :)

No it doesnt. I was actually aware of that, but no one has ever mentioned it until now.

The main reason I guess is that you cannot post from the archive, its more or less the same as logging out and reading as a guest.