I agree- as I stated earlier in this thread, a "beta- please help me with this hack" forum would be great! no stigma, no labels- just learning/teaching community helping kinda stuff.

Why is everyone so afraid of labels? You use them already under your name. Coder, Adv.Coder, etc. What's the problem? Are you afraid of being found out? Liz

No, Liz, I have no problem getting my code checked. But think of the newbies first starting out. How many of them would even think about doing another hack if they were labeled in public and felt humiliated because they didn't know as much as the more advanced coders do? Most of the people involved in this discussion have been there and would not have gotten to where they are now if they had been "labeled" in the beginning.

Yes, they are afraid of stepping up.. They want to just do those hacks and receive gratitutudes from unsuspecting public that does not know what's inside.

I am labeled as "Coder" instead of "Adv.Coder" or whatsoever. So what? I don't really care.

That's where you have the test forum...they go there first. If they can't pass the test forum, then they don't have the stigma of failing *in public*. Liz

Well, you finally got me, DV. I give up. It doesn't seem this is going anywhere anymore so I'll leave you all to it. Good luck with it. ;)

The Coder, Adv Coder, and Master Coder only seems to encourage users to create more hacks. I've never seen a user complain about being labeled because of there user title.

I have ;)

This will be my last post in this thread - In response to your threats of causing harm to someone's database I will be reporting you to several members of the Jelsoft staff for these threats...

You can argue your ideas and thoughts about so called valid code all day long - You refuse to understand the viewpoints of people who I consider to have more worth and who I respect who also happen to share my concerns - We can see yours, and are responding with the downside...

Should such a system be implemented, I shall no longer release modifications here, and will remove any that I have - If people wish to view or use my modifications I shall either host them on my own site, or band together with other respected coders to create a vBulletin.org-esque site free from these labels...

What you fail to realise is that this community has been going for almost 4 years - In these 4 years, up until now, such a system has been unnecessary - We have managed without it and we still can...

I hope you enjoy arguing your viewpoint - I can't see any good coming from it...

Satan

I guess there are dozens.
Here a few (from the first Hit returned by Google :D)
http://www.bierkandt.org/beautify/
http://www.tote-taste.de/X-Project/beautify/
http://www.semdesigns.com/Products/F...Formatter.html

Btw: I think everybody should try to clam down.
This discussion is getting way too hot, and that's not worth it IMHO.

I think there are valid points on both sides, but enforcing some kind of labeling seems to out of question.

I can't see why there shouldn't be some opt-in system for those who would like to have their Hacks reviewed/rated?.
That should hurt nobody, would be of benefit for Coders and Users - and those willing to review Hacks have smth. to do :)