powerful_rogue:

vb3.8 has social groups with threads but not really forums like this mod. I'm not upgrading my main forum because of this.

Thanks punchbowl. I think i'll hang fire for the time being.
Hopefully someone might create it as a mod for 3.8

gr8 work
thanx

this cant work for 3.8? :S

Indeed. Phalanx made this mod a couple of weeks as I was thinking of a way myself of implementing it, then this came out of the blue and I was stoked to see it. As 3.8 still does not support attachments, then this is my only option until Jelsoft implement it itself.

Please update this soon Phalanx, we all love the mod. :D

Thanks for sharing.

HI,

I was waiting for 3.8 to come out as I really need a good social group feature. I am extremely disappointed because they have no notification when you subscribe the the group under group tools. Instead to be notified of new message you have to go check for new discussion and subscribe to each new discussion.

I really need it to be on one time thing where you are subscribe to the entire group discussion if you choose that option. I am not sure why vb has group subscription if there in no notification. Seems like a huge mistake or bug.

Any way, Does socialforums have this feature where you are already subscribed to every new discussion topic that comes up new or do you have to come back online to check for new discussion and then subscribe?

If so I need to get this as a compliment or instead of VB social groups.

Can I use it as a compliment to VB 3.8 social group or will I have to disable it to use social groups? Will I be able to easily transfer all the social groups already created over to socialforums if I have to disable vb social groups?

SocialForums have ALL features that a forum can have, incl. subscriptions.

You can have both enabled, but only discussions are visible on group's page.

Thanks for reply. So does this mean that you actually have two groups systems or will the groups already created be integrated into the Socialforums system?

All this plugin does is add the ability to have SG forums with the exact same ability that other forums can have. Why Jelsoft have not done this I do not know, it makes a lot more sense than SG discussions.

This plugin does allow you to turn off SG discussions (a very good idea as you'll be using forums).

I understand that but what I am asking is, I have about 20 groups already created by members who were excited by this SG feature, what will happen to those groups if I install SG Forums? Will they become a part of SG forums? Or will the only be in SG Discussions. If they stay as Sg discussions can I as an admin move them to Social Group forums? I do not want to have two totally separate system because they are not integrated. I need all groups to be on one or the other group system. Thanks for your help!

What happens is that the SG leaders will be given a link at the bottom of their SG allowinf them to create a forum, when they click that the forum will be created and they will have their own forums. The current discussions are not converted to the forums but they will still be in the SG. It's just an addon and doesn't effect anything else.

Thanks for the good explainaion! So if I disable SDdiscussion will I lose those social groups that were created through SG discussion? I would like to just have to SGforums so there is not counfusion about which to choose between creating a Forum or a discussion but I do not want to lose those groups. Thanks again for the help

I should add that I do not mind if I lose the discussion already created as there were not that many but I do not want to lose the groups that were created

You won't lose any Social Groups whatsoever otherwise the plugin won't work. :p

Makes me want to scream. There's groups that can have a leader that moderates joins and then there's social groups that have a leader that can moderate who joins. But the two are completely unrelated in the jelsoft thinking. One has functions like is_member_of the other doesn't.

We can only hope the we get social forums by vb4.0 and that all our boarded aren't f*cked in transition.

How can we turn off social group discussions?

In the plugin options, there's an option to turn SG Discussions on or off. If you lot are trying it out on 3.8 then don't bother as it's not working yet.

Is there a forum online that has this enabled? I'd love to see it. Thanks!

Barb

I have a board I am intentionally NOT upgrading to 3.8 yet because of the popularity and useage of the Social Forums feature - my question is, if a converter or upgrade is never developed, and I do finally have to upgrade, is there a way to keep the forums people have created? Like will they still be there, just the access masks will have to be adjusted? Several of the forums have lots of posts, polls, attachements, etc, and I don't want the people to lose access to them once I have to upgrade eventually..

I have a problem with this addon: The original founder of a group is not active anymore. Another user took over the group now using the new function to switch the owner in 3.8 RC. Now the new group leader wants to create a group forum. But he does not see the link to create the forum.

The new leaders user group has the right to create group forums. And the group has the minimum amount of group members. Did I forget to check anything else? Or is it a bug in the addon in combination with vb 3.8?

Thanks for any help!

So has anyone upgraded yet, and if you did, what happened to the social forums your group created? Are they still there, just not connected to the groups anymore? Other than not being able to access them directly from the groups anymore, did any damage occur to the actual social forum?

I experienced no damage to the forums. It just doesn't have the link from or to the social group. Nor does it have the option to create a group any more.

Yesterday I deinstalled this addon. Somehow it deleted a bunch of topics created by group members.

As stated a few posts above I furthermore had many problems with ppl not able to create their group forums.

Therefore I can only recommend not to use this addon!

akonze, please don't spread such a nonsense. This mod does not even a single function to delete a post. "Somehow" it is technically NOT possible.

Please check your Moderator logs who has deleted the posts.

As for your problem not be able to create a forum - check permissions.

Well today I decided that I should look at 3.8 and start the process of working out my upgrade plan.

Everything seems to be fairly simple, however the 3.8 implementation of the Social Group messaging system is utterly dire, half hearted and should have taken some lessons from this mod, so I need to work out what to do.

So the question is what do you lot plan to do?

Use the mod and the new messaging system side by side?
Remove the mod and only use the new messaging system (using the migration tool mentioned in this thread)?
Disable group messages and use this mod?
Something else?

Phalynx, do you intend to make any changes to this brilliant mod for 3.8?

This really depends on how many users want this. Currently I'm thinking about it.

Well I would certainly be up for it, I would suggest a slightly different approach though...

This mod is fantastic but it has one problem that is not of its own making. The problem is vbulletins half hearted attempts at social group discussions, you only have a basic forum (or "mini forum" as they call it) and users expect to have the "bells & whistles".

I imagine that over the next year VB are going to twiddle and tweak and eventually get to the point where their default offering is a "bells & whistles" forum within the social group, with stickies, attachments, polls, announcements and a proper postbit etc.

Considering this and the glacial and somewhat blinkered pace that VB are developing SG forums I believe that continuing with the idea of this mod creating actual forums will always cause problems with upgrades and compatibility between whatever VB offers.

So all this being said, I would suggest creating a mod that adds the missing functionality to the default vBulletin social group messaging system. This means that as an when VB do decide to do something useful with SG messaging the mod can easily be changed and we get the benefit of useful messaging features.

To be honest I'll be turning off the SG Board and use this mod simply because it benefits me a lot more (for particular reasons), creating a mod purely for the mini SG boards may be an idea but it's more beneficial (I feel) to have them directly on the main forum. One of the reasons for this, for me that is, is because for some SG's they're needing to have their own projects that only they will be able to see, this can't be done in a mini SG board.

I'm dedicated to this plug-in as it is essential to address missing vB functionality.

Are you considering bailing on the whole mod? Or whether its worth addressing SG messaging functionality?

This has been downloaded over 500 times on this site, I would suggest that makes it popular and wanted, when I installed it I believe I said it was the best vBulletin addon I had come across, I have literally hundreds of my own users using social forums, they would not use it (social groups) if it was not for the social forums part and the integration it offers.

I really do hope you consider making it work for 3.8 as I will also be waiting to upgrade depending on what happens with social forums.

I agree, my social group usage would drop significantly if this addon was dropped. I have 3.8 and my social forums are still working fine, is there some problem with this and 3.8 that I haven't seen yet?

Check this post: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....&postcount=661

Just a short note: SocialForums 2.0 is now in work. It will work only with vBulletin 3.8 and replace it's Discussions.

I don't know when it will be finished, but I assume that a beta could be probably released in 1-2 weeks.

Please tell me what you are expecting from this, f.e. new features.

IMHO best case scenario would be this:

Entirely remove the default VB SG discussions and replace them with a fully functional forum, but have this on the SG page (like the default) rather than the forum list. I suppose I am saying a forum with the SG stuff (total pics, member list etc) at the top.

Personally I liked the original way of the social forums, having the forums in the normal forum list/home, so would prefer to have at least the option to do that. On the other hand it would be nice to have the forum visible on the social groups page as well. So an option to choose one or both would be nice.

Actually if it would be possible to get the SG info on top of the forum when you click on it in the normal forum list that would be great as well. I suppose I could create a workaround by editing forums which are just links to another page (the SG page), if the forum would just be visible on the SG page.

Keep it the way it is.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! :D

Perhaps this is already possible and I just can't find it. Presently, we place all SF forums in a parent "Groups" forum that has a forced skin assignment (different from the regular non-group forums). It would be very useful if all the SF forums would inherit that "forced" skin. So a control in the SF Config such as "New forums automatically inherit Parent forum skin assignment? [ ] yes" would be wonderful!

Less important, but requiring non-trivial code:
The ability for a member to select a forum assignment for his new SF. That is, we have about a dozen "sub-category" forums to hold the member-created group forums. We'd like to allow the member to select the best match during the SF forum creation process. I imagine a control in the SF Config such as "SF creator-selectable parent forum assignments [ ]" with a text box that accepts a csv list of forum IDs would be necessary in the config panel and a drop down list of category names for the SF forum creator to select from.

"Groups" Forum set up as a category (parent forum)
-- Subgroup category A
---- SocialForum A1 run by member "XYZ"
---- SocialForum A2 run by member "Abc"
-- Subgroup category B
---- SocialForum B1 run by member "123"
---- SocialForum B2 run by member "asdf"
---- SocialForum B3 run by member "999"
-- Subgroup category C
---- SocialForum C1 run by member "XYZ"
---- SocialForum C2 run by member "jkl"


Other minor ideas/suggestions:

• Help pop-ups for all SF config options
• An option for "Show X threads" to enable "All"
• "Parent forum" description suggestion: "All newly created social forums are placed here."

Is there a possibility of allowing SG Leaders to be able to create a Project and have it added to their forum? Also maybe have an option to allow SG Leaders moved to a different usergroup if set to yes.

I would almost say keep it the way it is also, the only thing that really confused me was permissioning. I had been operating with groups for a while before social groups came along using the groups that was built-in to vB. I'd create a group for someone, they would petition people to join, then upon getting enough members, I'd create a forum for them. The forum would show permissions for that group. With SG forums, you don't see permissions for the social group, just all other member groups on your forum.

Also, I don't know if I would put the forum inside the SG page. My members like the posts being listed in the new posts search. To be honest, I've always thought you could mod the old vB groups system to have a pretty comprehensive social group forum feature.

Thats awesome! Here are a few features I'd think would be awesome, if possible:

1. Group avatar in forum description
2. Group category in forum description
3. Remove forum option for group leader
4. Automatically remove forum upon group removal
5. Automatically change forum moderator upon group leader change

Again, great work and thanks for the effort :)

I'd like it pretty much as is.