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Asmod 08-13-2014 11:52 AM

so its not secure?

thats what i understand from that...

hpidriver 08-13-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Asmod (Post 2511100)
so its not secure?

thats what i understand from that...

From what I saw the plugin basically iframes all the content from their site. Admincp settings shows a blank page unless you disable https.
All your registered members must first register an account with Panjo. When they make a listing its hosted on Panjo and the subsequently created forum thread is just a link to their marketplace. Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails. :down:

Panjo 08-13-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by twobrutal (Post 2508655)
installed and working fine.

i have one slight issue however.
Im working in GBP and when the classified gets posted to the chosen forum the '?' symbol is not displayed. instead I have the special character code displayed instead. This means editing each post.
Any help appreciated.

vb 4.2.2

It sounds like you activated the version of Panjo (4.2.2) that comes with vBulletin 4.2.2. The latest version of Panjo fixes this bug. The latest version of Panjo, as of this thread post, is 4.2.2.0.10. You can always check with me, Chad, at Panjo (info@Panjo.com) or this vBulletin.org page for the latest version of Panjo.

Panjo 08-13-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by markoroots (Post 2510978)
Hi guys i have the 4.2.2 version installed and was trying this, that look a really nice product but...
Why you ask to disable the vbulletin protections???
And why the plugin doesn't work of default in https??????????????????????
And also why I must insert my admin cp account details in the panjo site??

Thanks for these great questions.

On the topic of https: Short version: Panjo supports SSL. Contact us for some custom configuration help. Long version: Most Panjo partners don't have an SSL certificate. Therefore, all Panjo transaction pages leverage Panjo's SSL to maximize the security and protection of payment information and personally identifiable information of buyers and sellers. Kudos to you if you have implemented SSL on your site. If that is the case, contact us at Panjo and it is possible for us to help you configure your Panjo install to leverage your SSL implementation. The plugin is 100% secure. It was tested thoroughly by Internet Brands (owners of vbulletin) in order to be pre-installed on vbulletin 4.2.2. The plugin works in an iframe that communicates with our servers. This communication also allows us to create threads for new listings, and update those threads when the items get sold or get edited. On-site HTTPs and some mod_security rules interfere with this communication. With a tiny bit of configuration, both of these can be modified to work with our servers. Additionally, Panjo checkout pages and "sell an item" pages open in their own windows and utilize best practices for SSL / HTTPs, and PCI compliance.

On the topic of your admin CP credentials: Short version: Some aspects of Panjo's administrative tools require a NEW Panjo admin credential set. Long version: When you are logged into your Admin CP, you will find a new nav bar option on the left, "Panjo Marketplace." Some of the Panjo Marketplace admin tools require you to log into Panjo's servers to administer. For those remote admin tools, you create a new credential set that is different from your Admin CP credential set.

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Panjo 08-13-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Asmod (Post 2511100)
so its not secure? thats what i understand from that...

Panjo is very secure. Panjo is MUCH more secure than a legacy classifieds subforum that does not use SSL.

Panjo 08-13-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hpidriver (Post 2511121)
From what I saw the plugin basically iframes all the content from their site. Admincp settings shows a blank page unless you disable https.
All your registered members must first register an account with Panjo. When they make a listing its hosted on Panjo and the subsequently created forum thread is just a link to their marketplace. Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails.

"the plugin basically iframes all the content from their site" - not exactly. You gain a new iFrame that provides a visual marketplace gallery and hosts the marketplace functionality. BUT, all the content ALSO gets deposited in your legacy (or new) classified subforums. And we use canonical URLs to improve link and ranking signals for your marketplace content.

"All your registered members must first register an account with Panjo" - not exactly. If a member wants to create a listing, he/she must register an account with Panjo. That process is simply submitting an email where the seller wants to receive marketplace communication. We implemented this step due to the fact that so many forum members had bad email addresses on file with the forum and were missing information related to their marketplace transactions.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1407956840

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"Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails." - 100% false. Panjo sends transactional emails. Examples: 'A buyer asked a question about your item,' 'your item sold,' 'a buyer made an offer on your item,' 'a seller accepted your offer,' or 'here is your receipt.' We have over 200 forum partners including a number of big boards. If Panjo was in the business of collecting "your user's information... and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails," I can guarantee no one would use the plugin. We take the protection of member's personal and financial information VERY seriously. We would be happy to introduce you to any of our partners if you want to ask about our service, attention to privacy, and respect for your membership. Drop me an email at chad@panjo.com so that I can introduce you to a reference site. Check out the 10 links below to explore Panjo partner sites.

BMW marketplace (Bimmerforums)
Radio control marketplace (HobbyTalk)
Porsche marketplace (Planet-9)
Winter sports marketplace (Teton Gravity)
Audi marketplace (Audizine)
Outdoors marketplace (Bushcraft)
Belly dancing marketplace (Bhuz)
Community marketplace (Talk Of The Villages)
Audiophile marketplace (HiFiWigwam)
Slot car marketplace (Slot Car Illustrated

markoroots 08-14-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Panjo (Post 2511145)
"Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails." - 100% false. Panjo sends transactional emails. Examples: 'A buyer asked a question about your item,' 'your item sold,' 'a buyer made an offer on your item,' 'a seller accepted your offer,' or 'here is your receipt.' We have over 200 forum partners including a number of big boards. If Panjo was in the business of collecting "your user's information... and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails," I can guarantee no one would use the plugin. We take the protection of member's personal and financial information VERY seriously. We would be happy to introduce you to any of our partners if you want to ask about our service, attention to privacy, and respect for your membership. Drop me an email at chad@panjo.com so that I can introduce you to a reference site. Check out the 10 links below to explore Panjo partner sites.


Sorry... can you please explain better these steps.

markoroots 08-14-2014 03:21 PM

I have wrote something to Vb site because i'm really angry with them about all these issues....
And there you will found also some tips in how to let live panjo..
In this way look real a disaster... till now you have only 25 installations...
active and imagine in how many forum your plugin is...
So listen my tips and you will see that all will grow...

But not in the iframe way you are making this.

Forum Admins don't want third part iframe on the own Forum.

So please or resolve these things or let us know how to complete remove the plugin on our sites.

You can found... also my tips here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...panjo-in-4-2-2

Panjo 08-15-2014 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by markoroots (Post 2511283)
till now you have only 25 installations...
Forum Admins don't want third part iframe on the own Forum.
You can found... also my tips here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...panjo-in-4-2-2

Markoroots - Thank you for sharing those suggestions at vBulletin.com. Much appreciated. The Panjo plugin continues to improve thanks to the input of forum owners like you and thousands of others. The best place to follow Panjo improvements and updates is on Panjo's blog under the 'software update' label.

Panjo does not have 25 installations. Panjo has nearly 1,000 installations. Due to the fact that Panjo comes preinstalled in vB 4.2.2 and due to the fact you can download Panjo from Panjo.com, the total count is ~1,000, not the 25 listed on this vB.org mod page. Panjo works lots of big boards that to are too busy running their businesses to come back to this page to flag Panjo as 'installed.'

As for the iFrame - why does Panjo leverage an iFrame? Panjo balances contemporary software development best practices with a world where vB 3.8 dominates. Panjo's use of an iFrame enables Panjo to be agile and quickly ship new features, benefits, and bug fixes. If Panjo relied on or burdened our partners with a task every time we wanted to deploy a new benefit or fix a bug, Panjo would have an install base running many different versions of Panjo. Through the iFrame, Panjo is able to rapidly improve the marketplace tools. Additionally, Panjo is able to provide security best practices to its partners through a use of SSL in a world where most vB forum operators are not using SSL. We don't disagree that a native vB php mod would be more ideal in some senses, but in many other senses it would be a loser. For four years, Panjo has continued to grow and improve. That can't be said for many vBulletin plugins because they took the route you are suggesting. We too wish were didn't have to use an iFrame, but it maximizes benefits and minimizes costs. PS - Take a VERY close look at the way Panjo integrates with the "post new thread" button and thread posts. Panjo's deep integration into vBulletin leverages the work flows and work flows familiar to your members.

mytreehouse 08-16-2014 08:34 AM

Everything is running smooth on vBulletin 4.2.2. Thank you for this! :)


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