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hambil 04-11-2007 09:36 PM

Alright, another bug squashed. Thanks for the help everyone. It would seem that a bug in the install sql was being hidden for a number of reasons, but the latest zip should correct that. You *must* do a complete uninstall and reinstall, as it appears the install code does't run on an overwrite.

voteforbird 04-11-2007 09:37 PM

You need to completely uninstall and then reinstall. Oddly, I did this and nothing happened, but the next day it was working. Perhaps it has to aggregate stats?

Also, the stats are a bit odd in that it seems to be comparing day X of the month to X amount of days in previous month, but since X doesn't change from daytime to nighttime, the % (and the arrows) move up throughout the day. At 12:00 AM, the %'s jump down again.

hambil 04-11-2007 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voteforbird (Post 1225375)
You need to completely uninstall and then reinstall. Oddly, I did this and nothing happened, but the next day it was working. Perhaps it has to aggregate stats?

See above update.

Quote:

Also, the stats are a bit odd in that it seems to be comparing day X of the month to X amount of days in previous month, but since X doesn't change from daytime to nighttime, the % (and the arrows) move up throughout the day. At 12:00 AM, the %'s jump down again.
Yeah, that's an interesting issue. What I do is compare today against the average for today over the last x months. Of course as the day goes on the numbers will get better.

In order to compare literally minute to minute, I'd have to run the large 'avg' queries everytime I run the 'current' queries. However, that would make the stats more accurate. Perhaps I'll make that an options - it might be especially useful for people who are using a delay of several minutes or more anyway.

goblues 04-11-2007 10:55 PM

Had to update a usergroup to "activate" the mod but is working now. Thanks!

Deadly Assassin 04-12-2007 04:21 AM

In the Screeny, there are some green arrows, it doesnt show on mine?

I have left the board accessible :up:

hambil 04-12-2007 05:59 AM

That's because Firefox doesn't show red x's. Move the vbtrends gifs to your various skin image directories, and you're good to go.

tobias_t 04-12-2007 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hambil (Post 1225385)
Yeah, that's an interesting issue. What I do is compare today against the average for today over the last x months. Of course as the day goes on the numbers will get better.

Why don't you compare the previous, finished day instead of the present one? This should solve this problem.

hambil 04-12-2007 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobias_t (Post 1225664)
Why don't you compare the previous, finished day instead of the present one? This should solve this problem.

The original inspiration for this hack was as a member motivator. I wanted my members to see the stats where down and post more and recruit more to get them up. In that light, I wanted it to change when they made a post or a thread or got someone to join. I wanted them to get positive feedback.

I still think that's a valuable thing and I want to keep the concept of quick positive feedback. However, I need to go think on this some.

tobias_t 04-12-2007 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hambil (Post 1225681)
The original inspiration for this hack was as a member motivator. I wanted my members to see the stats where down and post more and recruit more to get them up. In that light, I wanted it to change when they made a post or a thread or got someone to join. I wanted them to get positive feedback.

The idea of the mod is great, but I think there is much more value in it for admins and moderators than for members (which members care about the stats of a forum anyway?). So I would definitely suggest going for a readout that is probably less real-time but more valid overall.

Thanks for your efforts with this project!

hambil 04-12-2007 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobias_t (Post 1225694)
(which members care about the stats of a forum anyway?)

You'd be surprised. On my boards they care very much. It's the same reason people like the store, and obsess over their time logged in or reputation or post count. Many people just love having things to play with as part of their community.

However, that said, since I've already added the delayed concept, tweaking it further makes perfect sense. This doesn't have to be an either/or thing.


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